List of EO by Barry

Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:37 pm

KLook wrote:
I'm assuming that patients would be those with mental problems. Severely depressed as an example.


No, they have the ability now to grill your kids without you present and document what you have in your house. This is why they were barred from doing it. Use the children to undermine the parents. Popular theme with Socialist/Marxist/whatever. There were big fights in online forums about the doctors being barred from doing it. Of course, the mostly female doctors arguing would say that they just wanted to "study" the links, but it would finally come out that they were anti-gun. Funny pro-gun doctors don't see the need to gather info that can be modified by the collectors at will. Not a scientific study unless controls are in place and we have seen the Liberal penchant for lying to achieve ends. Just look at the global warming fiasco.

Kevin

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ Out of the mouths of babes. ;)
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:42 pm

Lets stick to topic please.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: GA cracker On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:53 pm

OK, does #6 mean that the fed will have info on gun ownership?
C.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:57 pm

"I don't have a problem with most of those. Numbers 4, 14, 15 & 16 need alittle work.

I would add that anyone taking a SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) should not own a gun. The majority of these mass shooters are young men who were prescribed these drugs. The most common are Prozac, Celexa, Luvox, Zoloft, Paxil and Lexapro. SSRI's are the "smoking gun" that the politicans and doctors don't want to talk about. There are more and some variants but normal sane people don't go into a school and slaughter scores of people. People who are unstable do."

That's kinds what I thought Kirk, that it was something like that before they should be asking.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:06 pm

I stopped watching the news right after the election. It still gets to me one way or the other. Every one of those items is another nail in our coffins; another fire ant crawling up the legs of lady liberty.
A buddy here told me he's been so angry lately, so have I; the unbelievable frustration of having to sit around and watch evil move ever faster into our country.
The things I took for granted for a lifetime; thinking my money has value and is safe in a bank; having faith in our leaders, gone. You email your representatives and get back a form letter discrediting your opinion and concern.

Hang in, hold the torch of freedom and The American Spirit in your hearts, that's something pure and God-given, that evil can never take away from us.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: rockwood On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:07 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:I hate to continue to lead this calf astray, but.... I was also asked by my occupational physician during a exam if a owned/used firearms. I asked her why she wanted to know she said it was to figure out if i have or could develop hearing loss from non-occupational exposure to loud noises. I said I will not awnser her question but asked her to ask the question in a different way. She did and i gave her a awnser. She also asked if i cast bullets or worked with lead solder.

My interaction with Doc was pretty much the same.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:08 pm

Richard S. wrote:I don't see anything here that I have any concerns about at the moment.


Other than the executive branch once again usurping the legislative branch. I guess that genie is long out of the bottle...
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:10 pm

SteveZee wrote:"I don't have a problem with most of those. Numbers 4, 14, 15 & 16 need alittle work.

I would add that anyone taking a SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) should not own a gun. The majority of these mass shooters are young men who were prescribed these drugs. The most common are Prozac, Celexa, Luvox, Zoloft, Paxil and Lexapro. SSRI's are the "smoking gun" that the politicans and doctors don't want to talk about. There are more and some variants but normal sane people don't go into a school and slaughter scores of people. People who are unstable do."

That's kinds what I thought Kirk, that it was something like that before they should be asking.


So a large percentage of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, cops and other emergency personnel shouldn't be allowed to have guns in your opinion?
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:11 pm

So, executive order or executive 'action', as I understood, it appears to be Presidential suggestions to congress.......
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:21 pm

jpete wrote:Other than the executive branch once again usurping the legislative branch. I guess that genie is long out of the bottle...


The Presidents job is to implement laws and create regulations within the scope of those laws.

I don't see anything here outside of the scope of those laws or the powers of the Presidency.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:23 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:So, executive order or executive 'action', as I understood, it appears to be Presidential suggestions to congress.......


These aren't suggestions, they will happen unless they are challenged by someone in court.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: GA cracker On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:28 pm

Richard, Is that not the Supreme Courts job?
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:40 pm

Pertinent to #2 on the list:

What form of health issues might disqualify you from gun ownership. If you answered "mental health" issues go to the head of the class. Now if records show that you ever had (even as a child) treatment for ADD, ADHD, AADD, etc..., or if you ever in your life (even as a child) saw a psychiatrist or a psychologist, or if records show any past use of drugs such as Zoloft, Prozac, etc... anytime during your life, you might become a person of suspicion as to suitability for gun ownership. Just my opinion.
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:41 pm

According to Wikipedia only two of them have been overturned, one from Truman and another from Billy Boy. :lol:

It appears they went through the normal court procedures.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1995 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the federal government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll.[9] Congress was able to overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it during the period of 1939 to 1983 until the Supreme Court ruled in Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha that the "legislative veto" represented "the exercise of legislative power" without "bicameral passage followed by presentment to the President."[10] The loss of the legislative veto has caused Congress to look for alternative measures to override executive orders such as refusing to approve funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.[11]
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Re: List of EO by Barry

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:44 pm

lsayre wrote:Pertinent to #2 on the list:

What form of health issues might disqualify you from gun ownership.


That will be left up to whatever laws are in place or passed.
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