Coffee 1-19-2013

WINDY

The wind gusted over 50mph last night,, i lost a few shingles.. again.. I'm thinking an all steel roof would have been a good but
very expensive idea for this place..

In spite of buying very expensive shingles, and having had three very hot summers to get them to 'stick' down and together..
well I'm not impressed..

I guess i'll have to get up on the roof with a caulking gun of roofing adhesive and glue down any raided tabs, I gues this should
be don next summer with hot afternoon sun to get the glue to adhere and stick.

I'd have thought with a new roof, new shingles only 3 yrs old.. that i'd no have damage with less than hurricane force winds.
i guess not..

The temperature yesterday was 44* this morning it was 9*... brrrr..

Greg L

Agree Kirk. While I'm a Pats fan and hope they win, I love Ray Lewis and he's had a storied career and will be in the HoF. The guy will also have an excellent second career as broadcaster if he so chooses.

Prolly not many into tennis but I just watched an epic match down under with Novak prevailing in the fifth! Good stuff.

Ray Lewis was involved, end of story. He has turned his life around i will give him that. Its very very hard not to think he had involvement. Of all teams in the NFL I think Ravens are 2nd from last in my book. I just dont like 'em. Sorry if I offended ya, was not my intent. Carolina is prolly bottom of the pyle, any team that has a SIR PURR for a mascot cannot be taken seriously

Yeah Greg we got the wind today too. 34 mph gust here ... but surrounded by hills and trees that's a pretty damn good gust! 47° out, so I'll take it.

Highest ever recorded by my weatherstation was in '08 - 45mph. We lost power the instant that hit.

Shingles - just like every product made today - cheaped out to the max. The shingles I bought for my barn roof had a lifetime warranty ... but if you look into that, they just changed the name. The year before they were 30 year - just the name changed. The shingles on my house we put on in '06-'07, and they're nearly twice as thick as the lifetime ones ... yet only have a 30 year warranty. That rolled roofing that was on there first? That lasted a whopping 7 years before it started peeling up! It's all *censored*. As usual the people get porked, while the manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank. What a world we live in! Rant over ...

The only way to somewhat combat that is to use extra nails & adhesive or silicone caulking along all the ones closest to the edge of the windy side.



My leg has a nice deep red line about 1/4" wide by 4" long. I'd post pics, but I'm way too hairy -- wouldn't want anyone to heave up that good scrapple ya got there.

Greg
did ya use the hurricane nailing pattern...
it just about doubles the nails in each shingle...
The fancy shingles never stay down as well as the flat 3 tabs...
Cheaper too...
Balmy Cape Cod been almost 50* but the freeze is commin'...
Gotta pull the outdoor sump before it freezes hard....
Have to have 6" of ice in the sump before it hits the pump...
It is only 12" or less to groundwater in the late winter and spring...
The dewatering pump system keeps the houses from flodding in big rain events...
If all the pumps are going we can do a 350 gallons per minute...
I really need to get the stove hooked back up...
It has been so warm and hectic with the twins and #3 on the way in June...
It never got done and i was hoping for another non-winter...
Looks like a stoker is in my future...
With 3 kids i will not have the extra time...

The wind is ROARING at my house. The steel roof is groaning and popping when the gusts hit, but it seems to be hanging on. I don't think shingles would have a chance on this house. Power is out in half the town, I just test fired the generator and made sure it is ready to roll. My dad and brother lost power a few hours ago, they are hand-cranking the EFM stokers once per hour to keep them alive...hopefully the power comes back on soon.

anthony7812 wrote:Ray Lewis was involved, end of story. He has turned his life around i will give him that. Its very very hard not to think he had involvement. Of all teams in the NFL I think Ravens are 2nd from last in my book. I just dont like 'em. Sorry if I offended ya, was not my intent. Carolina is prolly bottom of the pyle, any team that has a SIR PURR for a mascot cannot be taken seriously

Anthony --- You did not offend me. But I wouldn't expect you to be any less passionette about the Pats as I am about the Ravens. I don't "like" the Pats either but I respect them as opponents. I'm looking forward today to a good honest and fair contest! I hope neither team has any game changing injuries. It happens but I would hate for that to be serious factor either way. I want to see an epic game like I did last week against the broncos. Win or lose, I want to see a hard fought competitive game.

Ray had a real wake up that day about friends and the effect they can have on your life and career. Ray has been nothing but an extremely good influence in the community since. He's been a very generous contributer to local causes, a great mentor to children, and a very positive influence on other men, especially rookies in the NFL including many on other teams throughout the NFL.

Anthony, lets say the Pat's win today and go on to win the super bowl. I'm not pulling for that but it works for the example I want to use. You go out to a bar with 6 or 8 of your friends to celebrate. It's a big deal cause your team just won the biggest trophy in the NFL. After the evenings celebration is over, you walk outside with your friends to go home. Suddenly one of your your friends is hit in the head with a bottle and a fight breaks out. Everyone is really drunk cause it's 4:00 am. You try to calm things down but before you can, a couple of your friends have been involved in one on one personal combat with someone and they are stabbed. You are now involved.

Some people in Baltimore call the Steelers QB Rapistburger. I don't but I understand where it comes from. I don't expect you to start a Ray Lewis fan club there but you should know he's not a murderer. He's a guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and made a bad decision while drunk at 4:00 the morning.

Let's hope for a great game today. May the best team today win.

I guess I can see your point..... Baltimore is still goin down may the best team win

SMITTY wrote:......................

My leg has a nice deep red line about 1/4" wide by 4" long. I'd post pics, but I'm way too hairy -- wouldn't want anyone to heave up that good scrapple ya got there.

Smitty if you watched the video and saw how they made it I can't believe you never had the opportunity to make it yourself........

In fact, I could imagine you using the ice auger to help stir the pot....




Rick

Hey Smitty, when installing shingles in windy areas I reduce the exposure to 4" max, that gives less "lift" area for the wind. makes you use more shingles, though.

anthony7812 wrote:I guess I can see your point..... Baltimore is still goin down may the best team win

Oh oh. Ravens going to Super Bowl!

not the SuperBowl....


The Har-Bowl !

Oh Man! The Patriots certainly didn't shine tonight.

As a long time shingle installer on the windy coast, Installing them 4 inches to the weather defeats the design of the little dabs of tar on the shingles. However, it does work as it stiffens the exposure area. It is what the old shingles before tar were put on at. The shingles of today are a joke, and don't even bother trying to get a warranty coverage. I took shingles off of houses that had been on for 45 to 50 years. We still had some in my fathers barn from the pre-tar days. They were more them twice as thick as modern shingles. It has become a scam. In the last few years, we would not put them on a house with exposure to the ocean unless they were 4 inches to the weather and hand tared down.
I remember going to builders dinners put on by our local lumber companies and having reps from the manufactures come and tell us how they were improving the design by making them stronger(fiberglass) and increasing the coverage so we could put them on faster. The whole place broke into laughter, the guy was befuddled. I guess that line had worked before.

Kevin

And yes, I saw the Patriots loose. Baltimore was the tougher team tonight and to many injuries for the Pats. That running back for Baltimore is a bowling ball.

Kevin