Glass question

Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:48 pm

av8r wrote:
smith10210 wrote:Hey Jerry Ive heard toliet bowl cleaner might get rid of the hazing ever try that. Also where can I get the gasket for the widow?.

How old is this stove?

Its 2 weeks old. Thats seems pretty fast for it to haze up so quick. I just ordered Rutlands white off tonight. Im just using Rutlands ceramic silicon cleaner at the moment.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:56 pm

av8r wrote:
spc wrote:
av8r wrote:I used the Rutlands on a damp towel and rubbed "vigorously" as suggested on the bottle.

Did you use Rutlands White Off? Thanks.


No, this is what I'm using

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HA ... YDXHVDVRHY

This is what im using at the moment didnt make any difference. I spent 10 minutes polishing and wiping again tonight etc. Hopefully the white off will work or im replacing the glass with Robax depending on the price but ill need to find a new gasket..
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: spc On: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:02 am

smith10210 wrote: Hopefully the white off will work or im replacing the glass with Robax depending on the price but ill need to find a new gasket..

Jerry from LL says they use a glass made in Germany (Schotts), I'm assuming its Robax.

http://www.us.schott.com/hometech/english/products/robax/cleaning.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

When I buy new glass I will try NeoCeram.
https://secure.onedayglass.com/neoceram.php
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:27 pm

I used Rutland's White off which is tested and qualified for Schott's Robax ceramic tonight. I also used 5 razor blades and than treated it with 3 coats of Rutland's. Will see how long it last's..
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:34 pm

So you cleaned it with the white off and razor blades, then used the blue Rutland stuff to treat it?

The after pics look great! I'm burning different coal now that creates more fly ash, but the glass wipes clean much easier than the stuff I was burning. Today, I simply vacuumed off the glass and it came almost completely clean with no rubbing.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:38 pm

Also I priced out Neoceram for the Pioneer it is $51.67 + shipping which is $17 dollars for me. I will try this next instead of the Robax.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:42 pm

av8r wrote:So you cleaned it with the white off and razor blades, then used the blue Rutland stuff to treat it?

The after pics look great! I'm burning different coal now that creates more fly ash, but the glass wipes clean much easier than the stuff I was burning. Today, I simply vacuumed off the glass and it came almost completely clean with no rubbing.

I didn't use the Blue Rutland's I have that also. I used The white Off its called its white and is specifically tested for Robax ceramic. I used the Rutland's first than scraped than used it again. The fly ash doesn't bother me its that frosty haze that i got over night. I'm hoping that the White off will help keep it off. It did actually start to take some of the haze off but I just used the razor blades because it was so bad..
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:10 pm

smith10210 wrote:
av8r wrote:So you cleaned it with the white off and razor blades, then used the blue Rutland stuff to treat it?

The after pics look great! I'm burning different coal now that creates more fly ash, but the glass wipes clean much easier than the stuff I was burning. Today, I simply vacuumed off the glass and it came almost completely clean with no rubbing.

I didn't use the Blue Rutland's I have that also. I used The white Off its called its white and is specifically tested for Robax ceramic. I used the Rutland's first than scraped than used it again. The fly ash doesn't bother me its that frosty haze that i got over night. I'm hoping that the White off will help keep it off. It did actually start to take some of the haze off but I just used the razor blades because it was so bad..

OK..thanks...I'll have to get some of that stuff as well. Part of the appeal of having a big steel box full of fire in my living room is to be able to see the fire!!!
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: smith10210 On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:54 am

av8r wrote:
smith10210 wrote:
av8r wrote:So you cleaned it with the white off and razor blades, then used the blue Rutland stuff to treat it?

The after pics look great! I'm burning different coal now that creates more fly ash, but the glass wipes clean much easier than the stuff I was burning. Today, I simply vacuumed off the glass and it came almost completely clean with no rubbing.

I didn't use the Blue Rutland's I have that also. I used The white Off its called its white and is specifically tested for Robax ceramic. I used the Rutland's first than scraped than used it again. The fly ash doesn't bother me its that frosty haze that i got over night. I'm hoping that the White off will help keep it off. It did actually start to take some of the haze off but I just used the razor blades because it was so bad..

OK..thanks...I'll have to get some of that stuff as well. Part of the appeal of having a big steel box full of fire in my living room is to be able to see the fire!!!

Yes I agree. I love looking at mine :D
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: av8r On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:40 am

Everyone gravitates toward the far end of the living room now. Used to be that the fireplace end of the living room was unused territory. Nothing to see here folks..move along now. Now, even the dog hangs out on that side of the tracks. My daughters and I just sit there and watch the fire some nights...great family time.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: TCOAL On: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:33 am

Try this for cleaning glass. Take a dishpan, fill with warm water , add vinegar, soak old newspapers in this mixture.
Works great, you won't be disappointed.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:49 am

Using Butcher's paste wax on the stoker, so far, so good.

cleaning glass/stove
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: knobear On: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:03 pm

Every heating season I pour thru this section looking for any new ideas on keeping the glass clean.
I'm now into the 5th year heating with my second Leisure Line stove (both sidewinders), and have accepted the Orange Glow will ultimately occur no matter how hard I try to keep it clean. We even experimented with sanding/polishing the glass to finally realize the haze is actually below the surface. (After polishing it was like a mirror at an angle but still not transparent).
I have found a way of delaying the process by;
Spraying the clean/new panel with food grade silicone spray. This seems to keep the fly ash from accumulating.
I buy distilled water (50 cents a gallon at dollar store) and use that for daily wiping (my well water had too much mineral content)
I try to clean the glass with the distilled water and vinegar once a week and reapply silicone (spray it on rag in other room due to flamability and wipe it on cooled glass)
This has kept the glass mostly clear for almost 2 burning seasons. Don't know if it's the sideways position of the burner that also helps but it has worked about as good as I think it can. Never had much luck with the White Off or ceramic cook top cleaning products.
Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Re: Glass question

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:50 pm

knobear wrote:Every heating season I pour thru this section looking for any new ideas on keeping the glass clean.
I'm now into the 5th year heating with my second Leisure Line stove (both sidewinders), and have accepted the Orange Glow will ultimately occur no matter how hard I try to keep it clean. We even experimented with sanding/polishing the glass to finally realize the haze is actually below the surface. (After polishing it was like a mirror at an angle but still not transparent).
I have found a way of delaying the process by;
Spraying the clean/new panel with food grade silicone spray. This seems to keep the fly ash from accumulating.
I buy distilled water (50 cents a gallon at dollar store) and use that for daily wiping (my well water had too much mineral content)
I try to clean the glass with the distilled water and vinegar once a week and reapply silicone (spray it on rag in other room due to flamability and wipe it on cooled glass)
This has kept the glass mostly clear for almost 2 burning seasons. Don't know if it's the sideways position of the burner that also helps but it has worked about as good as I think it can. Never had much luck with the White Off or ceramic cook top cleaning products.
Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.


Please take a photo of your door ceramics and post it here. I run a wire wheel on my ceramic once a year now on the inside just before lighting the stove. The distortion is well under the surface of the ceramic at this point and nothing short of grinding off the hazed layers will ever bring it back. I've tried flap wheels, compound, sand paper, you name it and once it starts, you aren't bringing it back. Honestly, I'm relieved as it takes way more time than it's worth, IMO to worry about it. I'm using an LL Hearth which also has the side fed stoker.
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