Lets Talk Numbers

Lets Talk Numbers

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:54 am

So,8 degrees here this morning - cold by just about anyone's standard.The house was comfortable as it usually is on any other winter day.I thought it would be important to see what the "lower than usual" usage level in the coal hopper of my trusty KAA2 translated to in terms of dollars. From 0600 yesterday til 0600 this today ,the KAA2 used 67 # of UAE's finest. The math reveals that would equate to $22.27 worth of #2 fuel oil. In coal cost it is $5.69. If the same type temperatures continue for one week the bill would be $155.89 for oil and $39.83 for coal. That comes out to $116.06 savings per week under these temperature conditions.It is almost like having a green robotic employee in the basement that makes me money around the clock with no breaks or sick days. I greatly appreciate my Keystoker and the hard working Pennsylvania folks that dig and process the fuel to make it perform. Mike
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KAA-2

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PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:19 am

It was 10 degrees last night and Iv'e burned 60 lbs. in 24 hrs,thats 15 lbs more than a normal winter day here.Add that up to a savings of $2500.00 a year from burning oil with a 70 degree warm house and all the hot water needed. :flex: :dancing: :up:
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

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PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:32 am

Guys,

-4* this morning . Used about 60lbs last night. so far this year I've used about 1 &1/3 tons. It was costing me about $4500 a year for oil, partially because I had a terrible boiler(valliant). I figure Ill end up around 5 tons @ 220/per. I paid for my efm with the sale of a wood/coal hand-fed (almost) so Im already in the black. COAL IS KING! :D Sometimes I open my window just cause I can.....

Waldo
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Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

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PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:35 am

stovepipemike wrote:So,8 degrees here this morning - cold by just about anyone's standard.The house was comfortable as it usually is on any other winter day.I thought it would be important to see what the "lower than usual" usage level in the coal hopper of my trusty KAA2 translated to in terms of dollars. From 0600 yesterday til 0600 this today ,the KAA2 used 67 # of UAE's finest. The math reveals that would equate to $22.27 worth of #2 fuel oil. In coal cost it is $5.69. If the same type temperatures continue for one week the bill would be $155.89 for oil and $39.83 for coal. That comes out to $116.06 savings per week under these temperature conditions.It is almost like having a green robotic employee in the basement that makes me money around the clock with no breaks or sick days. I greatly appreciate my Keystoker and the hard working Pennsylvania folks that dig and process the fuel to make it perform. Mike


Good morning Mike, Mike here in Maine. Presently a whopping minus 9 here and at current prices I would normally burn through $28.72 of oil a day or $201.04 for the week, that includes my oil fired water heater as well. I'm using a bag a day @ $6.50 or $45.50/wk. Not bad 77% savings, throw in a couple gallons of oil for the water heater and I'm still way ahead! And the town water and pipes in the basement are bit warmer being close to the coal stove!
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

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PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:51 am

Been chewing up 70 pounds a day on these cold ones!! Which is about 25 pounds more than average.
70 pounds x $.10 pound = $7.00 day = 840,000 BTU's gross total

Would take propane 9.2 gallons to generate 840,000 BTU's gross total
9.2 gallons x $3.29 gallon = $30.27

Saving $23.27 per day over propane
Projected savings of $162.88 for a week of this cold stuff :lol: :rofl:
That savings will buy me more than three quarters of another ton!! :woot:
Last edited by Lightning on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

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PostBy: hcarlow On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:04 pm

For the past 24 hrs. we had a low of minus 13 and a high of 7 and I used 70 lbs. . I have to pay about .17 per lb. so that is $11.90 for me , not sure what that would be for me in fuel oil .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

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PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:32 pm

But coal is so much work! I spend an entire minute each day emptying ashes.

The way I have my system set up I can not really tell how much I use on a daily basis....but now that we are about half way through our 5th year using coal I can see that it's less than half the price of oil for me, and I get a heated garage "for free".
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

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PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:41 pm

No matter how you add it up,everyone burning coal is saving money :dancing:
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

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PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:54 pm

I love the analogy of having a cash machine in the basement printing stacks of money 24/7 for us :lol: it should be illegal by Gov. standards to participate in these acts... Pshhhhh, keep it secret or "the man" is gonna come knockin' for his extortion moneys :mad2: (cough cough i mean Tax Moneys)
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

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PostBy: oliver power On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:12 pm

Hi stovepipemike, -2* here this morning. My Kaa-2 is simply humming along. It loves this wheather. House is a dead even, consistant 74* throughout. Like you, I'm going through about 60 - 65 pounds every 24 hours. I'm very happy with this little boiler.
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

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PostBy: Wiz On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:25 pm

I'm loving it :D I'm burning about 60-65 lbs in 24 hrs with house at steady 73 during this cold snap. I couldn't be any happier with Ka-6 performance.
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

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PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:07 pm

I am probably using about 90 lbs in 24 hours here the last few days. We went down to 10 and up to 24, not nearly as cold as most of you all. Been about the same the last two days. The mag stoker has been keeping up with the upstairs at 69* in the one section and 63* in the back bedrooms. Although it does run for extended periods of time. I have it in the unfinished basement which is usually a sort of dump zone for us since our temps are quite a bit milder than most of you guys. We have a ranch house that has about 1700sq ft in the basement and a little more than that upstairs.

When we experience our normal winter temps it keeps up very easily running in mostly idle mode, with the call for heat two or three times per night and maybe once per day (more if we are in and out a lot). Uses about 50 lbs per day like that. If we had it upstairs it would be too hot most times even running only in idle mode I believe. Besides, the fan noise is not even noticeable with it downstairs.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

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PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:33 pm

I've used about 75-85 lbs. per day over the past several days. So far for the entire month of January my daily average usage tallies to 54.6 lbs. per day. Projecting ahead via the local extended weather forecasts, HDD's, and my spreadsheet that converts HDD's into coal consumption, I'm on track to burn roughly 1,750 lbs. for the entire month of January. Almost exactly what I went through last January. This despite it being projected to be on average here about 5 degrees colder per day this January vs. last. I attribute my similar consumption despite colder weather this winter to the beneficial difference between burning a blend of Blaschak and Stockton last year and straight Harmony this year.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

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PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:26 pm

Freddy wrote: The way I have my system set up I can not really tell how much I use on a daily basis....but now that we are about half way through our 5th year using coal I can see that it's less than half the price of oil for me, and I get a heated garage "for free".


I too do not weigh daily, I just added up what I have brought up to the house and used since 10/11/12. 2900lbs, heating basement in the low 70's, and upstairs 67 to 69 24X7. Total sq ft about 2250. plus garage into the upper 50's lower 60's almost every nite, another 325 sq ft. Neighbor who uses a wood insert lightly, and heats or should I say warms his house to mid 60's used 77 gallons in 4 weeks little over $300.00 for him I am at about $450.00 for fuel used to date.
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

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PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:10 am

On January 17th I hit 4,000 lbs. of coal consumed. The counting started on October 1st.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

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