winter water problems

samhill wrote:Dann, your still missing the point, why do we rebuild other countries & let ours fall apart internally,

I believe the underlying reason we rebuild countries is, to promote our system of government, democracy. It worked on the Japs and Germany. Prolly aint gonna work with the muzzies.

I don't know if you can keep it unpolitical in a situation like this; since the govt. and human factor always comes into play. The county road nearest to me had fallen into disrepair, really bad potholes. They came in last year, efficiently ground off the surface. Then I noticed a street sweeper with water, go up and down the road all day long, way after the road was prepared for pavement. That's the kind of waste I notice; you know, like the old cliche of six guys standing around watching one guy lean on a shovel

Similar story, a town came in to clear a sewer main, by blasting high pressure water through the system. The main got cleared, but the pressure blasted black water up through all the residential toilets and drains, causing massive damage to the homes!

I heard the Romans kept the roman public baths going for 400 years. They took wood for the fires from forests all over europe. 50,000 citizens could bathe in hot water in one of their complexes. Of course, that was all maintained by slave labor. I was under the impression that the roman empire fell when they let in way too many foreigners....

Come on guys, stick to the topic! What does many of the postings have to do with "Winter Water Problems". Keep the political stuff on the political threads.

It's hard to keep politics out of this, because that's what's exactly to blame for the crumbling infrastructure - at least in MA anyway.

Worcester pisses away all their money on liberal causes (needle exchanges, the PIP shelter, etc.), but does nothing about the 700 miles of 300 year old WOODEN water mains that crisscross that whole city. They wait until a 16" main busts and floods the street 3' deep before they decide to go in for repairs, since, "we don't have the money for maintenance".

Same with the state. Same liberal causes, with even more waste if you can imagine that one. They pave roads inside of Rt.128 even when they don't need it, & spend BILLIONS on infrastructure improvements in BOSTON, while all of us out here in the western part of the state have to replace shocks and ball joints every 20k miles because our roads are worse than dirt ones. With all the money this state extorts from us, and all the wealth in the state, they always find ways to piss it all away.This state is the poster child for mismanagement.

I do not see any correlation between the money the US spends rebuilding other countries and local municipalities neglecting their infrastructure.

You are implying in your statement that if we did not send money overseas it would be used to fund infrastructure improvements here or conversely we are taking money intended for here and sending it overseas. You are merging two unrelated issues into one.

Gaw, I don't think I am, if you go back before the wars there was plenty of money for rebuilding America, municipalities had a much easier time floating bonds & raising their side of financing & getting approval for matching Fed funds. The Gov. only takes in X amt. of revenue & we are basically in a balanced debt act until we got to where we were obligated to spend way more on a war & rebuilding effort. Look up how long it took to recover from the previous wars as far back as you want, we always did a lot of rebuilding here up into the Ike era & then it drops off. Even around the house there are certain things you have to spend money on to maintain or up date that saves you from more expense in the long run, we as a country have not done that. Now it seems like areas almost bribe businesses to build in their state, at least Pa. does. The taxpayer then foots much of the bill to suddenly upgrade to use as bait while not taxing the business fully or at all for a period of time & then when that brake ends so does the business as it's cheaper to just move to the next sucker.

gaw wrote:You are merging two unrelated issues into one.

Gaw, the OP started out comparing apples to oranges; he aint gonna consider any other opinions now....

"Mr. Crockett? Mr. Crockett? The well handle here in the Alamo is broken and I want it fixed immediately!"

" We're a little busy patching the adobe on the ramparts, The Entire Mexican Army is about to attack us."

" That's not fair! I wanna wash my face!"

Dann757 wrote:

gaw wrote:You are merging two unrelated issues into one.

the OP started out comparing apples to oranges; he aint gonna consider any other opinions now....
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Says the man who is conflating DEFENSE and OFFENSE......

jpete wrote:Says the man who is conflating DEFENSE and OFFENSE......

Not in my opinion. You look at things differently than I do.

I'm sure there's millions and millions of dollars that could be redistributed to infrastructure; eliminating tremendous waste. All of us guys arguing here, certainly have a better sense of priorities, in some ways; than the idiots and collections of idiots that are running this country.