The 2nd Amendment and Obama

Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:22 pm

009to090 wrote:If you have your CCP, no backround check needed at the gun show. A backround check is done when you apply for your CCP.

That's the rest of the country, Chris. In MA, you get a background check, permit or not. Also have to check your weapon at the door with the cops. You aim into the bucket of sand, eject the mag, clear the chamber & lock the slide back. Then they run a zip-tie thru your barrel and out the chamber & give it back to you. They hold your mag & ammo until u leave. About as dumb as it gets. :roll:

Forgot to mention my story ........ when I got my ammo back, they cut the zip tie for you. I hit the lever and let the slide slam shut. You want to see people panic and freak out? Then do that. :lol: :lol: WOAH WOAH WOAH!! That's all I heard. I said - YOU JUST GAVE THE THING BACK TO ME! YOU KNOW THE CHAMBER'S EMPTY!!

The state has everyone on edge. And that was 2 YEARS ago!
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:51 pm

SMITTY wrote:That's the rest of the country, Chris. In MA, you get a background check, permit or not.

I keep forgetting where your coming from. Ya gotta come visit a Gun Show down here. A bunch of us guys car pool into Raleigh for the day, whenever one comes around. Its a day away from the family. I took my son once, but it was too much walking for him. Maybe when he is older... IF Gun Shows survive....
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:00 pm

I hear ya. I have at least 20 nights a month where I'm dreaming walking a property I just bought far south of the Mason-Dixon. ;)

The ones up here are tiny in comparison. Everyone is packed in like sardines - vendors too. Trying to look at anything requires patience of starting at one end, and moving with the flow to the next. If you like walking the middle & browsing both sides, you'll see nothing because everyone is shoulder-to-shoulder. About the only place not like that is the Christian Gun Owners booth.

That's MA for ya ... just gotta laugh. :lol:
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 pm

samhill wrote:Dan as I have asked many times before, did all this happen in the last 4 years? Then think about your wording & you accountant, "conservative, doesn't waste time on message boards like we do." Is that because he's a con that he doesn't waste time, a decorated war vet or what? There are only a few here that admit to being on the lib side vbut the vast majority are cons so I guess that leaves that out, I'm a decorated war vet so I guess we're left with the or what. There again if it's not to your liking then it's a lib at fault but I guess that's the way it is in leave it to Beaver land.


Yeah, I apologize; even though you ask for it, I shouldn't bring veterans into this unless it's relevant. I took that comment away.

You ask us to come together, then scoff at me when I render the slightest vulnerability.

The last 4 years? We've all watched things get worse than ever; this is bizarro world now.

As a concession, no I don't hold con politicians without blame, or big powers like some corporations. Republicanism is shot IMO.

This is a nationwide topic. I think they're trying to sweep this country off the planet; I can't say what you think but you're probably better off stresswise.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:24 pm

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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:10 am

Dann, there you go proving my "leave it to Beaver land" example. you can see no wrong (as many here) with anything that went on before the last 4 years unless you jump past the 8 before that & then take a even bigger jump. Are you drinking decaffeinated again? This is a start where you finally did slightly admit that some con may have something to do with it as well. I think we have been well on the way to a corpocracy for many decades now.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:25 am

The only thing I can say Sam is that I have a lot less than I did four years ago. Paying more taxes, and not getting a raise. So I am worse off than I was four years ago. Now they want to ban certain guns and high cap magazines so, I'll have even less. Why are we wasting time and money on banning me, the law abiding citizen from having something when Lyin' Joe said we don't have time or manpower to enforce existing laws? Ya think we'll have the time to enforce new laws? A foot in the door and then an outright ban so the Liar in Chief and his gestapo have total control for the good of the sheep?
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 am

SB, if your tax went up it was because Congress wouldn't renew the temp. cut that Obama put in. Any local tax isn't his fault, Corbet makes a big thing that he passed a budget without an increase but he cut all the local & school funding to do it so guess what. As for the guns we don't know jack yet, I don't think it's gonna hurt the legal owner but what's the big deal about changing a mag? As for enforcing gun laws I would more blame the judges that cut sentences, make deals & release these guys. I agree with that Sheriff Joe on a lot, why did we make prisons nicer than what many citizens can afford, there is no threat to jail time any more & we got to start capital punishment where it's definitely due. I would even say that after a set amount of felonies a person ain't gonna change, get rid of them as well. There are a whole list of things that have been allowed to get out of hand & if you believe that it's all one sided your wrong. :o
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 am

Sam buddy, are you better off now than you were four years ago? If so I'd like to know how it's possible. Yes, I can change magazines PDQ but that's not the point. The point is banning a weapon or magazine is the start of something much bigger. Hell, I have Stevens 66 .22 that holds more than 10 rounds. Should that be illegal? Why is the magic number 10? Why does the hypocrite surround himself and his family with guns? (Oh yeah, he's the president I almost forgot that). What's good for him should be good for all of us not just government "officials". I'll be damned if I'll settle for any less when it comes to guns.
At least I can agree with you regarding capital punishment.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:41 pm

SB, there was a ban on before & everybody lived & got by without anything sinister happening, as I said we don't even know what is going to come down yet if it's too bad then have your guy change it when they get in. Bush got rid of the last, same holds true of any of these things we all complain about like welfare, it could have been changed by either side but both have added to it except for now despite what your lead to believe. It's all a one sided game & very few of us are on the controlling side (it's neither party), yet we complain the way we get programed to go & then to make matters worse we keep the same ones in office.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:56 pm

You never answered any of my questions :gee:
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:58 pm

The first AW ban should have never passed to start with. Was just as useless on crime as the one they're proposing now. I know the politicians are smarter than this, so they obviously want the populace disarmed.

Historically, a disarmed populace never fares very well ....
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:10 pm

SMITTY wrote:
Historically, a disarmed populace never fares very well ....


Exactly
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:26 pm

As I said SB so far there is nothing but proposals & IMO they did that right, they let everyone have their say. So nobody knows whats going to be banned if anything but gee I would hate for someone to have to give up even just a little to perhaps save some lives(not saying that I believe it will) but the bottom line is the AR & like weapons are what have been used, I think the bigger question is where & how these people get them. I don't believe that Obama is the first nor his family to get protection so that is a stupid question, the school the kids go to is for people that can afford to pay for them & they are all over the country if you look around. That's the way it is, the houses get their perks as well & always have, we are not equal your a con you should like that part. I'm retired & on a fixed income, very little changes for me except local tax & cost of living just like everyone else if SS gets a slight increase something else goes up as well. Every once in awhile I'll make some extra when I can, I'd be a lot better off if I got rid of some self imposed family circumstances but that's on me I help out as I can, it just gets real old at times, we all have our own problems.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment and Obama

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:29 pm

SuperBeetle wrote:You never answered any of my questions


Welcome to the club. :doh:
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