MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:16 pm

Very true Flyer.

Can you imagine mayor Menino of Boston going door to door for your guns? :rofl:



I imagine it would go something like this:




(knock knock) you: "Who is it?"

"MMMAaaamma mmmmnnno BOSTON" ....

you: "WHAT???" ....

"MMMAAMMAMMMMEEENO BOSTON MMAAAYAA SDFJAAFAJJSDJJJ mmummemmmuuummmmmammmmmuum GUNS"

you:
:confused:


:rofl:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:35 pm

SMITTY wrote:Very true Flyer.

Can you imagine mayor Menino of Boston going door to door for your guns? :rofl:



I imagine it would go something like this:




(knock knock) you: "Who is it?"

"MMMAaaamma mmmmnnno BOSTON" ....

you: "WHAT???" ....

"MMMAAMMAMMMMEEENO BOSTON MMAAAYAA SDFJAAFAJJSDJJJ mmummemmmuuummmmmammmmmuum GUNS"

you:
:confused:


:rofl:




:D
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:40 pm

This will flop. There is not enough support for nationwide banning of firearms and magazines. Even NY will soon be back to the way it was. I think we won this round but they will be back. So we still need to keep up the fight.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer


Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:43 pm

I hope your right, Flyer. Living in this state clouds my view - I see little hope for the future ... :|
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: pvolcko On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:05 pm

Flyer5 wrote:This will flop. There is not enough support for nationwide banning of firearms and magazines. Even NY will soon be back to the way it was. I think we won this round but they will be back. So we still need to keep up the fight.


I'm glad you think so, but no, it ain't gonna happen. NY's new law is here to stay.

There will be court cases against it, but probably not for at least a year when the more egregious parts of the law come into effect and some people with standing to challenge provisions can be found. Supposedly NYSRPA (NRA's NY group) is filing notice of suit, giving them 90 days to come up with a basis for a case. My guess is they will be flat out denied standing with whatever they come up with. They will appeal over the course of the year, getting to NY's top court of appeals and then there will be standing and it will get kicked all the way back down to actually be tried, then they will spend a year losing, appeal for another year and lose, appeal again, lose all the way through NYs' courts and then go federal and maybe in 7 years, all told, it will wind its way up to the supreme court. And by then who the hell knows will be on the bench or what case law will be on the books will have established a new direction on these matters.

There is a chance for this to be fixed in legislation due to the fact they screwed up in writing it the first time around and left cops open to charges if they carry on school grounds. Given that it will require politicans to have big brass ones to so to speak hold the state's cops ability to carry in schools hostage in order to demand significant rollback/repeal... I'm betting it will not happen. If they were spineless enough to "negotiate" away what they did in secret and pass it under a patently false flag of an emergency measure, they will not even consider such a hardball tactic to roll any of it back.

And any hope of rolling it back through normal legislative measures is folly. It would take winning back the Senate from the anti-2A forces that passed this through such dispicable means, possible but highly unlikely. And also winning control of the Assembly (never in a million years will it happen). And then also replacing Cuomo with an actual pro-2A governor (haven't seen one in this state since... not sure ever in my lifetime).

No, far more likely is that on the heels of this there will be a renewed push for even more gun control legislation. Microstamping. Permits for assault weapon owners (instead of just the new registration requirement). 50 cal rifle and pistol ban (I'm absolutely amazed at least semi-auto 50cal rifles didn't get labeled assault weapons, too, they did get 50 cal pistols with the new 40 or 50oz weight rule, at least the current crop of them). Ammunition bans (new law says can't have "armor piercing" ammo with intent to use illegally, I suspect new legislation to define armor piercing and also get rid of the "intent" aspect of the current law). Possible definition of what constitutes a large amount of ammunition purchasing, since all ammo purchases are now tracked and logged by the state. Another attempt to outright confiscate existing assult weapons (was a dem proposal for this new law that was denied by the GOP negotiatiors, woop). Limit on number of mags you can own/possess per gun. Adding language to include "belt" feeding devices in the assault weapons feature list. I don't know what if any of it will pass.

Edit: File of Claim, filed... or something: http://www.nysrpa.org/files/SAFENoticeOfClaim.pdf
pvolcko
 

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:04 pm

I personally don't believe all that jibber-jabber--but, nice on the research aspect. AnyWHO--to sum it up--the black market is as wide open as it's always been. 98% of all that is unenforcable & a large % of law enforcement, will not enforce it anyway. As Dave said, this will blow over in time when even the anti gun people get their heads out of their ass's. Talk about knee-jerk on Coumo's part. Real sad.
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: DieselBob On: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:04 pm

SMITTY wrote:I hope your right, Flyer. Living in this state clouds my view - I see little hope for the future ... :|

Sadly I believe you are correct. :(
DieselBob
 

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:12 am

freetown fred wrote:As Dave said, this will blow over in time when even the anti gun people get their heads out of their ass's.


Now that there aint EVER gonna happen. :shock:
Dann757
 

Re: MAYORS SUPPORT URGENT GUN CONTROL AGENDA

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:05 pm

Here's a complete list of the morons in your state:

http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org ... .shtml#top
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler