oil vs coal

oil vs coal

PostBy: japar On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:06 pm

Oil vs Coal, hey its been so long since I bought oil i forget what it used to cost, Diesel is around $4.10 so home heating oil used to run 20 cents cheaper so maybe $3.90 a gallon. With this frigging coal snap I am using 60lbs of coal a day, what does that equal in gals of oil. I bet these people burning oil in these big houses can go through 100 gals a week in this extreem cold. Yup every time the truck pulls up and drops 100 gals it must be around $400
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hearthmate
Stove/Furnace Make: Hearthmate
Stove/Furnace Model: combo

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:13 pm

A ton = 180 to 200 gallons of fuel oil. Your 60 lbs would be around 6 gallons.
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Stove/Furnace Make: axeman anderson
Stove/Furnace Model: 130 anthratube

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: fifthg On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:15 pm

a ton of coal is equal to about 186 gallons of fuel,and when you buy it,you stimulate our economy,not the middle east's.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Harman DVC 500
Baseburners & Antiques: Reading Foundry & Supply Co.
Coal Size/Type: rice,pea Gale Mining Co Anthracite


Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:17 pm

Oil per gallon gives off something like ~140,000 btu

A lb of coal gives off ~12,500 btu

you can do the math, I'm too lazy to walk 3 steps and get my hewett-packard reverse polish notation calculator.

:P
Uglysquirrel
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:33 pm

We always said on the farm that 1 cord of firewood is equal to 100 gallons of oil. And we always figured 1 ton of coal was equal to about 2 cords of firewood. I know the math on that does not equate to the proper BTU's, but firewood has a lot of variables too.

As for a big home; my father has a 5280 square foot home and even well insulated, new construction and radiant heat, it cost him 4500-5000 to heat his home for a year. I told him to go with a coal boiler, but ultimately he went with an under fed pellet boiler and the cost of heating his home was reduced by half. He is happy with it anyway, and who can blame him. Oil sucks.
NoSmoke
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yoker WC90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vogelzang Pot Bellied Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove/Nut/Pea Anthracite
Other Heating: Munchkin LP Boiler (Back-up)

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:22 pm

japar wrote:With this frigging coal snap I am using 60lbs of coal a day, what does that equal in gals of oil.


About 5 gallons of #2 heating oil, give or take a bit.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:05 pm

My Texas DataMath does not work too well these days but we save about $10,000 a year on heating costs with coal. This year I put that money in the bank to save up for my luxury yacht but the wife has just drawn out $14,000 to pay for stupid horse vet bills. Can some mathematical genius out there tell me how long it will be before I get my boat.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:20 pm

coalnewbie wrote:Can some mathematical genius out there tell me how long it will be before I get my boat.



Ahhh... no math needed.... you have your boat... it eats hay, has four legs, a mane & a tail. ;)
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Dennis On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Freddy wrote:
coalnewbie wrote:Can some mathematical genius out there tell me how long it will be before I get my boat.



Ahhh... no math needed.... you have your boat... it eats hay, has four legs, a mane & a tail. ;)

Maybe you can get a ride on the vets boat
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:32 pm

Check out that Fuel Comparison Calculator on the top menu bar!!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
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Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:39 pm

I used to burn 12-14 gallons of #2 fuel oil per day if it was really cold and windy...now I max out around 125-130 lbs per day of anthracite. $18 vs $55....about 66% savings on the worst days.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Rob R. wrote:I used to burn 12-14 gallons of #2 fuel oil per day if it was really cold and windy...now I max out around 125-130 lbs per day of anthracite. $18 vs $55....about 66% savings on the worst days.



Good God Sir, it must be cold as a witches TIT up thier :shock:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Pacowy On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:55 pm

coalnewbie wrote:My Texas DataMath does not work too well these days but we save about $10,000 a year on heating costs with coal. This year I put that money in the bank to save up for my luxury yacht but the wife has just drawn out $14,000 to pay for stupid horse vet bills. Can some mathematical genius out there tell me how long it will be before I get my boat.


Shortly after you switch vets, and hire one with proper training, like Doreen.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:50 pm

I think you are all being negative. I am expanding my horse operation and as I lose about $50 a month on every horse, how many horses do I need to break even.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: oil vs coal

PostBy: Pacowy On: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:20 pm

coalnewbie wrote: I think you are all being negative. I am expanding my horse operation and as I lose about $50 a month on every horse, how many horses do I need to break even.


I think the mathematical geniuses would agree that the answer to that one is "zero". And that's neither negative nor positive.

Mike
Pacowy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite