This man has some balls. He is a bad ass.

FF


one of the foremost character traits of a sociopath is the lack of empathy for others. That jack-leg punk probably frightened some parent and child terribly .For anyone to think that their 2nd amendment rights trump all else doesnt make him a bad ass it makes him a dumb ass....Finally, the day is at hand when someone is going to assess your mental state before you get a gun and Ill suggest they wont look favorably on someone who has no regard for others peace of mind.

Waldo

Who is deranged when your fragile peace of mind trumps my 2nd amendment right? Who are you to decide what is deranged behavior? If it is legal, then it is not deranged. The problem is you are a typical liberal and want to order society by your seemingly common sense opinions that you hold forth as facts for all to live by. You can argue all day long about his wisdom, but not about his mental state as it is LEGAL. And I am sick of hearing about other peoples refusal to even see someone with a gun as it damages their belief systems and causes them to have to lie to their children or explain the truth to them. It further drives the ownership of guns into some underground class of criminals, a stigma that no ones wants to have on them.
Reasonable people leave their rifles at home or in their cars, people proving a point do not. He was making a point, it is having the desired effect. It is being debated in the public eye and both sides have to grapple with the uncomfortable truths about it.

Kevin

Kevin, are you back from Maine?? Hope you had a good visit. Of course we both know that what you just posted is all BS. He didn't make a point, he got things more riled up then they already are. Nothing to argue about his wisdom---he has none. His activities are what drives the legit gun owners into the underground. Gun ownership, in this old farmers opinion is about respect, maturity & being responsible. That ass knocked this battle back a few weeks--that's all it did.If you can't see that, you're not looking.

KLook wrote:Who is deranged when your fragile peace of mind trumps my 2nd amendment right? Who are you to decide what is deranged behavior? If it is legal, then it is not deranged. The problem is you are a typical liberal and want to order society by your seemingly common sense opinions that you hold forth as facts for all to live by. You can argue all day long about his wisdom, but not about his mental state as it is LEGAL. And I am sick of hearing about other peoples refusal to even see someone with a gun as it damages their belief systems and causes them to have to lie to their children or explain the truth to them. It further drives the ownership of guns into some underground class of criminals, a stigma that no ones wants to have on them.
Reasonable people leave their rifles at home or in their cars, people proving a point do not. He was making a point, it is having the desired effect. It is being debated in the public eye and both sides have to grapple with the uncomfortable truths about it.

Kevin

Then you are already stigmatized fred. You are part of the lets keep them hidden, they are evil crowd. That is what they want. Children are being taught how evil they are so they will vote to ban them as adults, stigmatize you so if you bring one out, it is derided as the act of a lunatic or antisocial nut. When city kids think milk comes from a plastic jug, not a cow, how are you going to combat their erroneous opinions later in life about the evils of guns?

Kevin

Yep, back from the cold. what a ride into Atalanta last night. Long day hanging out in airports and flying on planes riding like they were on Maine roads.

Kevin

yep, those are some pretty big balls... Flyer i thought you were only bringing in the Glock!

This same thing happened in Maine. A 20 something year old decided to prove he had 2nd amendment rights and walked through the Old Port in Portland with an AR-15 just to prove that he could, scaring half the city.

Stupid.

As Abe Lincoln said, "Just because you have Freedom of Speech doesn't mean you can yell fire in a crowded theater." I am a farmer and protected under the Right to Farm Act, but that does not mean I should go and spread manure next to my neighbors house at 2 AM in the morning either.

This Thread Title should not Read "This man has some balls. He is a bad ass", it should read, "This man threw what is the equivalent of a 22 year old temper-tantrum and is a Dumb Ass!"

We're not, overnight, & punching them in the face with the concept, I've found, NEVER works---the old ,you attract more bee's with honey then with vinegar idea comes to mind.I can only speak for around here, but no kids that I know are taught that guns are evil, most understand that they are nothing more then a tool to be used safely & properly. I was talkin to a young kid down to the fire house last night that HAS his concealed carry permit & his thoughts were equivelant to mine about this situation--. A vote was held about firemen/ambulance personel carrying & it was voted that YES they can if they have their permit---it was a liability issue---we are all volunteer & I made quite a stink in making sure it got voted to the affirmative.Of course there were the 2 sissy ass libbers that thought it was outlandish--funny how they are pretty new to the area--one from Jersey & one from Pa.--cities that is. CONCEALED that is. Not an AR15 shoulder carried! I've said it before--fanaticism on either side of the aisle does nothing but hurt this situation, but as always, there is compromise. If you call that being stigmatized--???????I call it being realistic. Glad you got home safe & sound Kevin.

KLook wrote:Then you are already stigmatized fred. You are part of the lets keep them hidden, they are evil crowd. That is what they want. Children are being taught how evil they are so they will vote to ban them as adults, stigmatize you so if you bring one out, it is derided as the act of a lunatic or antisocial nut. When city kids think milk comes from a plastic jug, not a cow, how are you going to combat their erroneous opinions later in life about the evils of guns?

Kevin

dcrane wrote:yep, those are some pretty big balls... Flyer i thought you were only bringing in the Glock!

Nah, If I did it I might as well bring a .50cal with a shoulder belt full of rounds. After that the AR would seem normal.

I'm missing something. I must be. Because I'm confused. I'm trying to understand what the problem is here.

* If you own guns. But store them in your house, locked away and only bring them out to hunt, go to a rally or to the gun store with them. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know can't hurt them.
* If you own guns. You can go to the local government apply for a CCP and get PERMISSION to exercise your 2nd amendment right provided the gun is HIDDEN. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know but may have a suspicion don't know can't hurt them.
* If you open carry a gun, even though your second amendment right says you can and it's legal. You are immediately criminalized, labeled an immature, temper tantrum throwing, gun toting, sociopath, psychopath out to kill, murder and maim people that has just taken a bunch of spent casings and thrown them in the gears of progress. Even though you are a completely sane rational person. The sheep/deer immediately go into panic mode and all hell breaks loose.

Is that right?

I can see the stigma. I think we'll all need to agree to disagree on this one.

I'm On Fire wrote:I'm missing something. I must be. Because I'm confused. I'm trying to understand what the problem is here.

* If you own guns. But store them in your house, locked away and only bring them out to hunt, go to a rally or to the gun store with them. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know can't hurt them.
* If you own guns. You can go to the local government apply for a CCP and get PERMISSION to exercise your 2nd amendment right provided the gun is HIDDEN. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know but may have a suspicion don't know can't hurt them.
* If you open carry a gun, even though your second amendment right says you can and it's legal. You are immediately criminalized, labeled an immature, temper tantrum throwing, gun toting, sociopath, psychopath out to kill, murder and maim people that has just taken a bunch of spent casings and thrown them in the gears of progress. Even though you are a completely sane rational person. The sheep/deer immediately go into panic mode and all hell breaks loose.

Is that right?

I can see the stigma. I think we'll all need to agree to disagree on this one.

your right im sorry to say... out of sight = out of mind.
around here if you walk down the street or anywhere outside a range, gun show or hunting forest or are wearing an active military uniform. it takes about 2 seconds for someone to call the police shouting out "OMG some psycho looking dude is walking down the street with a gun in his hand"....at which point the dude is swarmed, It is unavoidable and probably why its never really done. It may not be right... but as Walter say's..."thats the way it is"

dcrane wrote:

I'm On Fire wrote:I'm missing something. I must be. Because I'm confused. I'm trying to understand what the problem is here.

* If you own guns. But store them in your house, locked away and only bring them out to hunt, go to a rally or to the gun store with them. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know can't hurt them.
* If you own guns. You can go to the local government apply for a CCP and get PERMISSION to exercise your 2nd amendment right provided the gun is HIDDEN. That's ok. What the sheep/deer don't know but may have a suspicion don't know can't hurt them.
* If you open carry a gun, even though your second amendment right says you can and it's legal. You are immediately criminalized, labeled an immature, temper tantrum throwing, gun toting, sociopath, psychopath out to kill, murder and maim people that has just taken a bunch of spent casings and thrown them in the gears of progress. Even though you are a completely sane rational person. The sheep/deer immediately go into panic mode and all hell breaks loose.

Is that right?

I can see the stigma. I think we'll all need to agree to disagree on this one.

your right im sorry to say... out of sight = out of mind.
around here if you walk down the street or anywhere outside a range, gun show or hunting forest or are wearing an active military uniform. it takes about 2 seconds for someone to call the police shouting out "OMG some psycho looking dude is walking down the street with a gun in his hand"....at which point the dude is swarmed, It is unavoidable and probably why its never really done. It may not be right... but as Walter say's..."thats the way it is"

It's quite sad that it this way. I stand by my original statement of, if more people would do it then the stigma will most likely go away. But again, I understand that society has been conditioned to believe anyone with a gun is a sociopath murderer. Someone asked why I call people sheep, the reason why they are sheep is because they are all hearded into believing one thing. That guns are bad. That coal is bad. That the government is here to protect them. It's why we only have a two party system. The sheep are led to believe that's what works. It clearly doesn't. This country is falling apart because the sheep are allowing it to fall apart. Someone can't go shopping and openly carry his weapon without the sheep getting spooked. Because they are led to believe that his sole intent is to kill everyone. It's sickening that we've become a society of bitches because of a culture of fear and a stigma surrounding an inanimate object.

OK IOF, instead of talkin totally irrational *censored*--do this---sling an AR15 over your shoulder & take an hr walk around your community & get back to me on how it went. All this gum flappin is really inconsequential---the proof is in the pudding. There is an old saying that "if I have to explain it to you, you really don't need to understand it, nor are you open minded enough to do so" PS--take the kid along with you on that walk. And remember---1 hr.

freetown fred wrote:OK IOF, instead of talkin totally irrational *censored*--do this---sling an AR15 over your shoulder & take an hr walk around your community & get back to me on how it went. All this gum flappin is really inconsequential---the proof is in the pudding. There is an old saying that "if I have to explain it to you, you really don't need to understand it, nor are you open minded enough to do so" PS--take the kid along with you on that walk. And remember---1 hr.

No, I get and understand what you and everyone else is saying about it. Don't mistake my ranting as not getting it. I get it. I'm just pointing out how idiotic the culture of fear is.

I'm done with this thread.

People expect others to do appropriate things to match the occasion. Would you wear your oldest dirtiest clothing to your friends wedding? Would you heckle the priest during a sermon or even more so carry your military style weapon to church?

When behavior falls so far from the norm then naturally people want to put space between themselves and someone acting outside the norm, as would I.