First Coffee in 5 Days After Bout With Flu

 
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Post by dcrane » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 2:50 am

IM ALIVE :clap: Im also now an advocate for the flu shot! holy freeeking hell this has been the worst 5 days ever and though im still not fully functioning but I think ive turned the corner at this point. This stuff was no joke, it feels like it took years off my life. Ive never thought about getting a flu shot ever before but I can assure you... I will be getting one come sept.1 this year!!!


 
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Post by Lightning » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 3:51 am

No coffee for 5 days! Dang :( I hope yer feeling better.. I dunno about the flu shot though. Personally I never believed in them. Although I'm no doctor, a flu is a virus.. and they have to predict what virus will be prominent for each season and of course need to be right for it to be effective. I've seen and read about alot of complications that were thought to be related to getting the flu shot. Maybe its a coincidence, but my wife got a flu shot and then our grandson that lives with us got the flu a few days later. And then a friend of mine, he claims a flu shot messed his wife up for months.... Its hard to say even if the flue shot would have saved you from getting the flu.

This is just my opinion on the whole thing, it seems the medical market is struggling to make money so they push things like this. My wife went to the hospital with a sinus infection, and instead of giving her antibiotics (that I knew she needed) they gave her a prescription for cough syrup that ins wouldn't cover at $100 a bottle. She raised hell with the doctor so he replaced it with an $8 OTC cough syrup. Of course that didn't work, so she went back AGAIN to get the antibiotics that they should have given her in the beginning.. I'm starting not to trust doctors or the medical industry much :(

 
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Post by NoSmoke » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 4:12 am

Glad you are feeling better! The flu has hit this house as well with two kids sick this past week.

Being pregnant, the wife had a slight emergency due to premature contractions and while she was in the hospital they asked if she wanted a flu shot. We do not believe in them either and that is when the Nurse told us that the flue shot they are given, is not even for the strain that is hitting the US and that is why it has been ineffective. Then she informed us that they were out of them anyway and would have to be placed on a waiting list. We were like, "Then why did you even ask?" She could not give us a solid answer for that.

But if you want to crank up an Emergency Room Nurse, when they tell you they are not giving you an antibiotic, tell them you got plenty of LA-200 and Penicillin for livestock...they get all wound up and tell you that you can't inject meds intended for livestock into yourself, but it is not true. It is the same stuff and there is a book that explains what is what, and how much you can use to treat yourself. Always go by what is recommended for sheep, weight wise they are the equivalent of humans so 55 cc's say for sheep, is what you want to use for yourself. Just watch out for LA-200, it burns going in, but will save you a $100 co-pay for an ER visit. :D

 
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Post by Freddy » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 6:15 am

dcrane wrote:IM ALIVE
Excellent! Glad you didn't suffer longer. Many people say "I had the flu" when actually they had some bad chinese food or something. When you actually have the flu it is not a 24 hour thing and it's no fun at all. 8 or 9 years ago I had the flu. It put me down for 2 solid weeks & I never, ever, want to go there again. I believe in science and a good Doctor. I now get a flu shot every year and I'm the first in line. I don't care if the flu shot *only* gives 70% coverage. That's a 70% chance I will not get the flu. I have heard cases where people have survived car accidents because they were not wearing a seat belt, but I wear mine every time.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 6:29 am

Sorry guys. Been getting flue shot for 5 yrs & have NOT been sick (physically) for those yrs with NO negative reaction--seems like a toss of the dice comes into play here???? Like everything else, we hear about the negative--I wonder what the percentage is--hell, no I don't--I do know it works for me. :) Glad you're getting better dc.

 
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Post by waldo lemieux » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 7:56 am

DC

Im glad you made it out the other side, I havent had it but my understanding is that its a bitch. My lifelong best friend ,also a gun toting moonbat, got the evil thing. AAbout day three he said he couldnt get outa bed , thought he was gonna die. Realized he had alot of stuff on the bucket list , and a non smoker was born. Hes been smokin for 40 yrs and has tried to quit and never could ,till now. The damn flu may have saved his life! Anyway , sorry for the diversion , drink some juice and sit by the fire, spring is comin . :)

Best

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Post by I'm On Fire » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 9:29 am

Welcome back to the world of the living!! I'm glad you are feeling better.


 
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Post by SMITTY » Fri. Feb. 01, 2013 5:00 pm

I got hit with a similar bout when I was living in AZ 13 years ago. Felt like I was going to die. Never been so sick before, or since. My buddy MADE me go to the hospital because he said I seriously looked like I would die that night. Pale white as a ghost, whole body ached top to bottom, chills .. then sweat. Hallucinating too. Was bad friggin' news!

So I sat in the hospital waiting room for 3 friggin hours of torture. Was in soooo much pain. Just wanted to lay down. I'll never forget that.

All that, then the doctor says: YOU GOT THE FLU - TAKE SOME SUDAFED. :| I almost punched the guy ... :lol:

Now that you had your coffee, go git yerself some whiskey! :D :drunk:

 
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Post by dcrane » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 2:57 am

thanks for the insight guys, I never really agreed with med's or flu shots, etc. (im one of those naturalists type who would prefer Garlic and Ginger to an antibiotic) BUT man I gotta say, I don't think I could take another hit like this one :( and if a flu shot is 60% effective or 2% Im going to try it from now on (unless im living alone without school age kids coming home).

@smitty , funny about your experience at the hospital because I was exact same, they did not want anything to do with me and all I could think in my hallucinations was "GOD LORD just shoot me up with morphine or something and put me in a coma till its over" :lol:

 
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Post by Cap » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 6:46 am

I am with freetown on this. Flu shots work. I don't like feeling like death. It's too scary. So I get the shot. I have type 1 diabetes. I get especially sick if the flu hits me. But haven't had flu in many years.

 
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Post by gaw » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 7:15 am

They say the flu shot works if you are exposed to what they put in the shot, if they guessed wrong or you get some odd strain it don’t do much good. Stay away from people, kids especially, and don’t touch anything, especially your face.

Freetown, is it the shot that works or the fact that you’re a hermit?

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 7:27 am

Probably a little of both. A couple of the kids were here the 1st couple yrs I got the shot--as we all know, they drag everything home from school--I had that liver cancer--shut up SMITTY :shots: :cheers: and the chemo knocked the hell out of my immune system--that's the year I started--as I said before---no flu since--I also get the penomonia shot every 5 yrs--I guess that works---haven't had any of that since. There seems not to be any rhyme nor reason as to why some have such bad reactions--toss of the dice I suspect, but I for one would not go without--of course right after the shot, I'm out doing barn work & putting in a normal 16 hr, normal life on the farm day.

 
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Post by BillMarti » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 9:29 am

I hate to be a bearer of bad news but the flu shot isn't effect on this particular strain of flu. My nephew works in the medical field in DC and said that they guessed wrong on the strain and it wouldn't have made a difference on the outbreak anyway. I've never got a flu shot and as of yet haven't got the flu where it lasted for more than a day or two in the two times in 20 years I can remember. I'll never trust the government that tells me I have to get something that they're never sure of let alone how it will affect me in the future. We have a built in immune system fr a reason. As a matter of fact I have a friend at work that got this flu shot for the first time in his life and guess what........he got the flu for the first time in years.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 9:46 am

BillMarti wrote:I hate to be a bearer of bad news but the flu shot isn't effect on this particular strain of flu.
As I understand it, the World Health Organization (and CDC in the US) makes an educated guess at which strains of the virus should go into the flu shot...there is a "mix" specific to the Northern Hemisphere.

Sometimes they guess the right strains, sometimes they don't...but the argument is that even if the vaccine doesn't contain the same exact virus that you are later exposed to, you will still have more/better antibodies to fight it off. I really don't know if that is true or not...but my own experience with the flu vaccine has not been positive. Last fall my wife and I both got a flu shot because it was strongly encouraged due to our son being in daycare. A few days after getting the shot, both of us came down with a cold that lasted almost a month. We finally got straightened out around Xmas, then our son caught a cold and we both got it shortly after....runny noses for another month. We were buying tissues at Sam's Club! It was a miserable experience, and this year I said NO to the vaccine. Perhaps it is just a coincidence, but our entire family has been healthy so far. I work with several people that have gotten the flu, and other kids at daycare have been sick...but so far we have been ok.

Regardless of your position on the flu vaccine, I think there is a lot to be said for proper diet (lots of green), plenty of rest, and some sun.

 
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Post by SMITTY » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 12:11 pm

I don't trust any of it. I'll take my chances.


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