cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: efreeman58 On: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:04 pm

i bought this stove off my brother who maybe used it a total of a month (he bought it brand new) but it wouldnt keep his house warm...he didnt have a chimney and had to use a power vent wich made me think it was sending all the heat out...so i thought i would try it with a chimney because i used to burn wood so i took the power vent off and i plumbed everything up put a barometric dampener on it and fired it up..now when its 30-40 out it will heat you out of house, but below that to negative numbers it doesnt hardly put any heat out...i put a plenum and ran duckt work to the center of my house (2200sq ft with blown insulation) ive tryed adding pins turning the adjuster knob up and cant seem to get my house above 58 degrees...not real sure of the model the manual that came with it is pretty vague.. but i do know it is a 160,000 btu keystoker with a thermostat wich should be more than enough...any help would be greatly appeciated
efreeman58
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:29 am

Sounds liike it may be a koker 160 ?
pics would be helpful.
Where is it located in the house?
What is your draft reading
any more info would be helpful...so as people here will have a better understanding of your set up.
its imparative tbat your chimney is clean...as you were burning wood previously.
welcome aboard....there is a lot of knowledge here on this forum

...again...try to find out the model...or provide pics
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

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PostBy: Wiz On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:59 am

We need model, what size coal, did you check draft with manometer and pictures of fire on demand. On info you shared , pins will not help, they are used for preventing fire on going out during idle time. How much ash on end of grate? How much red coal on grate? How many turns on feed rate
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

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Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:24 am

What size flu pipe is coming OUT of the stove to the chimney..??
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: CoaLen On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:28 am

At a 160,000 btu I'm guessing it's a Koker forced air furnace.
Does it look like this?
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CoaLen
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:38 am

I am wondering if by chance you were awarded the coal pile along with the furnace? Have you tried a different brand of coal by any chance? Same problem both locations could point to the fuel,just a thought. Mike
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KAA-2

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:42 am

stovepipemike wrote:I am wondering if by chance you were awarded the coal pile along with the furnace? Have you tried a different brand of coal by any chance? Same problem both locations could point to the fuel,just a thought. Mike



....very good point.
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:16 am

Where is the thermostat located? can you hear it clicking when you turn it up?

Whats your FEED SCREW Set at? how many turns?

How much Coal is burning on the grate? AT full burn you should have about 1" of ash at the end, if you have more, then you need to adjust your feed screw 1 turn at a time.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: WNYRob On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:42 am

Keystoker has updated manuals posted on their website. It may help you more looking at the new koker write up. LOTS of people have kokers, and I have yet to hear anyone complain about not enough heat being produced. Once you get it dialed in you will see the light!!

Like mentioned above, make sure your feed screw is turned in (clockwise, like you were tightening a bolt) enough to burn enough coal to keep up with you house temps.
WNYRob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker Koker controlled with CoalTrol

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: efreeman58 On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:03 pm

it is loacated in my basement, the chimney is 6" triplewall stainless i cleaned the chimney before installing the coal stove....i did recieve the coal that he had with it as well.. the thrmostat is upstairs and yes i can hear it click on at the stove...it has about a 2" bed of burning coals on the grate and about 4 " of ash from the end....that is the way it always is it doesnt change?....really dont know much about coal stoves...thanks for the help
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: efreeman58 On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:05 pm

it also uses rice coal
efreeman58
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:31 pm

Increase your feed rate...
If you could...'test' some different coal
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:45 pm

Looks to me like your stoker stroke needs ajustment. Turn your stoker ajustment screw all the way clockwise. Then back it off(counter clockwise) approx: 2-3/4 - 3-3/4 turns. Somewhere in that area. My ajustment is 3-3/4 turns counter clockwise. This brings my ash within 1 inch from end of grate at full fire. The little tab on the end of the stoker ajustment screw is off set. The longer part hangs down, and kind of acts as a weight so the ajusting screw doesn't turn one way, or the other. (Less feed = counter clockwise, More feed = clockwise). Another thing I'd do is give that nylon wheel in the pusher block a shot of silicone. Myself, I use tef-gel lubricant. It's a penetrating gel lubricant, which doesn't atract dirt, etc.. I buy it by the case from lauson products for use in my business. I'm not sure where you'd be able to buy it. Oliver
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Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:52 pm

Yup, that's a Koker, 160K btu/hr.

You will be pleased once you get it all dialed in.

:idea: When you get a good warm spell you may want to give the walls and exhaust passage-ways a good scrubbing.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: cant seem to get enough heat out of my keystoker any help?

PostBy: Wiz On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:31 pm

Stove isn't working hard, increase feed rate. Warmer weather give it a good proper cleaning
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

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