Powervent Question... Thanks in Advance!

Formulabruce · Post by **Formulabruce** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 8:18 pm

HI, Im new here from Northern New England. I have a chance to get a friends Baker fireplace insert stove, which is a Manual feed stove. Wasw considering using in a Big garage situation. I see Powervents but always seem to see them with "stokers". Could a powervent run with a manual stove if the fan control was hooked to a temp switch or? IT sure seems doable, safely, Thanks for any insite, FB

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 8:23 pm

Formulabruce wrote:HI, Im new here from Northern New England. I have a chance to get a friends Baker fireplace insert stove, which is a Manual feed stove. Wasw considering using in a Big garage situation. I see Powervents but always seem to see them with "stokers". Could a powervent run with a manual stove if the fan control was hooked to a temp switch or? IT sure seems doable, safely, Thanks for any insite, FB

I don't think you can use a power vent with a hand fired stove. I believe this is mainly because in the event of a power failure a stoker quickly goes out, but a hand fired stove would not go out at all, and the exhaust (lots of it, for hours on end) would dangerously back up into the house.

Formulabruce · Post by **Formulabruce** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 8:44 pm

lsayre wrote:
Formulabruce wrote:HI, Im new here from Northern New England. I have a chance to get a friends Baker fireplace insert stove, which is a Manual feed stove. Wasw considering using in a Big garage situation. I see Powervents but always seem to see them with "stokers". Could a powervent run with a manual stove if the fan control was hooked to a temp switch or? IT sure seems doable, safely, Thanks for any insite, FB
I don't think you can use a power vent with a hand fired stove. I believe this is mainly because in the event of a power failure a stoker quickly goes out, but a hand fired stove would not go out at all, and the exhaust (lots of it, for hours on end) would dangerously back up into the house.

I considered that, what about a battery back up? I have no clue how much power they draw...

Rick 386 · Post by **Rick 386** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 10:38 pm

NO ABSOLUTELY NO !!!!!!!

A fully loaded hopper or fully loaded hand fired appliance has way to much available fuel to continue to burn and produce CO. A hand fired is supposed to burn by natural dfafting from a regular chimney. In the event of any failure the drafting continues due to it being a chimney. Without power a power vent stops all forms of drafting.

A stoker will only burn if the combustion fan and the coal continues to flow. When a power vent shuts down, it usually has a control to shut down the combustion fan and feed mechanism thereby shutting off the burning action and stopping the creation of CO.

Its not just about power to run a power vent, it is also about the failure of anything associated with the power vent, ie, fan clogging, motor seizing, fan blade failure, etc.

Rick

Formulabruce · Post by **Formulabruce** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 11:03 pm

ok, Gotcha, Flue it is then, thanks for the input!!

Rick 386 · Post by **Rick 386** » Sat. Feb. 02, 2013 11:18 pm

Bruce,

See if you can put up a block chimney. Once and done. And usually cheaper than double wall pipe.

Rick

Formulabruce · Post by **Formulabruce** » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 2:13 am

Blocks and SS liner or the clay?

Joeski · Post by **Joeski** » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 2:44 am

Clay. The SS can degrade due to fly ash. I learned that right here on this board. And if your handy go to the knowledge base up there at the top of this website and you can find directions on building your own. I got a quote from a mason a board member used for a 50 foot block & clay for only $2600.00. A stainless steel quote was almost $7000.00 and will not last as long.

How did I do answering this all you more experienced coal burners?

baddawg · Post by **baddawg** » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 7:18 am

Joeski wrote:Clay. The SS can degrade due to fly ash. I learned that right here on this board. And if your handy go to the knowledge base up there at the top of this website and you can find directions on building your own. I got a quote from a mason a board member used for a 50 foot block & clay for only $2600.00. A stainless steel quote was almost $7000.00 and will not last as long.

How did I do answering this all you more experienced coal burners?

Did so well I thought it was Rick when I was reading it.

Rick 386 · Post by **Rick 386** » Sun. Feb. 03, 2013 9:11 pm

baddawg wrote:
Joeski wrote:Clay. The SS can degrade due to fly ash. I learned that right here on this board. And if your handy go to the knowledge base up there at the top of this website and you can find directions on building your own. I got a quote from a mason a board member used for a 50 foot block & clay for only $2600.00. A stainless steel quote was almost $7000.00 and will not last as long.

How did I do answering this all you more experienced coal burners?

Did so well I thought it was Rick when I was reading it.

You guys will be able to do this as well.

Rick

Joeski · Post by **Joeski** » Tue. Feb. 05, 2013 4:13 pm

Yay

This here knucklehead has learned something. Pre coalpail.com I had no real clue other than coal is the best priced fuel out there today.