Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: europachris On: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:37 pm

Wow, nice unit! I was thinking along the lines of one of those cheap Chinese units you see everywhere. The one you bought is the real deal. That should work quite well! Have fun with that monster!
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:48 pm

Yeah I was looking at the units at Harbor Freight for around $150, but the more I looked into adding a cyclonic separator and after filter the more the project quick ly added up to $600 to $800. I purchased the Aget for $300. A new HEPA filter is $80 plus the unit is meant to run for hours with no issues.... so long story short this is the road I picked. :lol: :roll:
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Yanche On: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:56 pm

Matthaus wrote:It is an Aget Model 1151 with clamp in panel after filter:
Are you planning to vacuum coal ashes with it or just the dust from moving coal ashes. If vacuuming all of the ashes does it go through the blower impeller? Will the impeller stand up to repeatedly being hit by ash and the occasional lump of coal?
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: av8r On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:47 am

av8r wrote:
cheapheat wrote:I personally just dump it in the lawn outside the front door and in the spring my neighbors fight over it for filling low spots in their lawns. jim

I thought it would kill whatever plant material it was dumped on/near due to acidity?


Can anyone verify that ash is OK to dump on/near plant material? I thought it would kill it??
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Dallas On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:11 pm

I dumped it in a heap in my field last year, expecting to load it and move it. That didn't happen, but I don't see any surrounding effect from dumping. Most of the old timers, just threw the ash in a hole around the house somewhere. I know one family, who's whole back yard consisted of coal ash ..... with grass on it.
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:34 pm

If you dig in my back yard anywhere under the grass or other plant life you will find coal ash. My entire yard seems to have been the dump site for years and years of coal burning.

Bottom line, everything grows fine and as for my health well the sudden jerks and spastic movements are progressing nicely now! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:39 pm

with all the ice we got, been backing the flatbed truck in the shop and puttin the ashes in the bed so we can spread them on the 4" of ice called a driveway......normally we fill a wheelbarrow and take that out daily
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:41 pm

Yanche wrote:[Are you planning to vacuum coal ashes with it or just the dust from moving coal ashes. .... Will the impeller stand up to repeatedly being hit by ash and the occasional lump of coal?


Yes I will evacuate the coal ash product in it's entirety from the vicinity of the coal burning in the basement. Right now I am designing a shaker screening box to separate any unburnt coal and possibly rocks or other hard objects found in the coal. This should allow a long and healthy life for the steel impellers in the blower assembly. The idea will be to make the box a dustless receptacle for ash removed from the Anthraheat since it will use the ash drawer I will be able to remove the cover start the unit and dump the ash drawer contents). I plan to make an adapter for the Anthratube to collect ash from the ash bucket without opening the ash door.

So many science projects and so little time. :roll:
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: beatle78 On: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:34 pm

Matthaus wrote:
Yanche wrote:[Are you planning to vacuum coal ashes with it or just the dust from moving coal ashes. .... Will the impeller stand up to repeatedly being hit by ash and the occasional lump of coal?


Yes I will evacuate the coal ash product in it's entirety from the vicinity of the coal burning in the basement. Right now I am designing a shaker screening box to separate any unburnt coal and possibly rocks or other hard objects found in the coal. This should allow a long and healthy life for the steel impellers in the blower assembly. The idea will be to make the box a dustless receptacle for ash removed from the Anthraheat since it will use the ash drawer I will be able to remove the cover start the unit and dump the ash drawer contents). I plan to make an adapter for the Anthratube to collect ash from the ash bucket without opening the ash door.

So many science projects and so little time. :roll:


Revive the topic! :D

Matthaus,

How did this ash removal system work out?

Thanks,
Jeremy
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: mr1precision On: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:36 pm

I dump my ash pan out in my dirt driveway. I try to minimize the dust by wetting the top down pretty well with a garden pump sprayer. Then I quickly flip the pan upside down to dump the ash. Next, I slowly lift the pan off the ground leaving the asy behind. By doing this I get very little dust. Not sure if it's the best way but so far It's been working for me. At least until I can get my wife to do it for me anyway. ;)
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:55 pm

beatle78 wrote:How did this ash removal system work out?


It's still just a twinkle in my eye.... need more time! :lol:
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: jhish On: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:04 am

I just built a pulse jet dust collector out of (2) 55 gal. drums. I used a drum with the top third cut off with casters under it for the hopper and I line it with heavy bags. All I do is drop it, roll it out from under the collector and pull the bag. No more dust up the nose. I even installed and ash temp. monitor wired up to a water solenoid for safety. The pulse jet cleans the bags when the differential pressure gets to a desired setpoint. I also built a clinker breaker which I slide under the boiler inplace of the pan. This breaks up the clinkered ash so I can suck it through a 1 1/2" pipe at a high velocity. Right now, it's installed in a different area of my basement till I work out and bugs. Once it's perfected, I plan on moving it outside next to the area where I keep my trash. The I can pull the bag out of the hopper and throw it in with the trash. No walking necessary. It's awsome.
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: valley coal On: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:32 pm

We just put in the back of our 4-wheeler and when it gets full we run it to a dump pile in back of the house. Alot of folks around here just put it back in the bag and set it out for the trash man. Whatever you do....do not empty the ashes inside...sounds obvious but you'd be suprised!
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: DavidL On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:52 am

I bought 2 10 gallon ash cans. Before I empty the ash pan, I roll over the shop vac to the ash can and let the hose with floor attachement, hang over the edge into the can. The vac sucks up most of the fly ash when I slowly dump the ash. When the can is full, I cover the ash can with a 13 gallon kitchen trash bag with pull ties, flip the ash can over and lift the ash can out. The bags go out in the trash.
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:16 am

av8r wrote:Can anyone verify that ash is OK to dump on/near plant material? I thought it would kill it??

Last Winter I dumped quite a lot on a low spot in my lawn, about five feet across. Didn't seed it or put dirt over it. By mid-Summer the grass had filled in nicely and you couldn't distinguish it from the surrounding area. Except it's still a little low, so I need to add some more ash.
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