Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:43 pm

I like to keep the pan clean so I don't have the ashes back up and touch the grates,and I to have two ashpans so one is cooling off for 12hrs before I put the ashes in a bag(6 shake downs to fill one bag)and toss into the trash.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 983 insert
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:54 pm

Vermont Castings have a nice way to make ash removal very easy and clean with their swing out ash pan and the sliding lid. (you can see it on the small video). It's also a good idea to start by emptying the ash pan before shaking so it's cooler then.
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: stokersmoker On: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:37 pm

I bought a 16 gallon shop vac (from Lowes, I think) and bought the fine dust particle bags that go inside. The unit itself also has a round air filter that goes over the mouth of the air intake inside the can, so its double filtered. Works great for sucking out the fly ash that settles around the ash pan, and anything that spills while taking the pan out to dump. It completely contains all dust and when the bag is full, I just pop the top off, pull the hose off and tape up the opening to the bag. This ensures that no dust can get out while I pull the bag out. Throw the bag in a garbage bag, and out to the trash it goes. The only problem Im having with it is when Im sucking out the fly ash from the bottom of the stove, its sucking in some of the heat too and the hose gets all soft and starts to cave in. Im going to maybe try to find some sort of medal hose or something a little more heat resistant. The coal ash itself from the pan Im dumping into a medal trash can outside and loving the ash plume in my face. When I need anti-skid for the driveway, its in the cans waiting for me. I like l40knocker's idea of the drum. Since I already have the shop vac, might have to try that idea. Although not as quick as just dumping the whole pan at once, I could eliminate the plume of dust in the eyes, so the trade off might be worth it. But then again, I might be robbing myself of the full extent of the true coal experience. :funny:
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: MarkV On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:42 pm

This won't help you guys with bushel-size ash tubs, but here's what works for my little Franco-Belge hopper-feed stove.

The F-B uses an ash pan about 20" by 9" by 5" deep. I have two of these pans. I shake the grates every 8 hours. One full day of ashes fills one ash pan, which I dump outside late at night before the pre-bedtime shaking.

For dumping the pans, I use two small round metal ash cans with a lid and handle, each of which holds about 4 days of ashes.

Before my bedtime ash shaking, I take that day's full pan out of the stove and put an empty pan in. I set the full pan aside and cover it with a piece of heavy-duty aluminum foil that I've folded an edge into, so it fits tightly over the pan. This keeps any airflow in the basement from picking up fly ash.

The next night, before the last ash shaking, I take the full pan from the night before out to my back stoop, where I keep the cans, and dump the pan into the can. Since I only dump cooled ashes, I keep the ash cans lined with heavy-duty Glad or Hefty stress-flex bags with the built-in handle ties.

Like other posters, I've found there's not much you can do about the ash--no matter how gently you dump the pan, an ash cloud flies up. My pans don't weigh that much, so I can dump them with one hand and sort of just stand out of the way, and upwind.

The night before trash day, I pull the bags out of the cans and tie them shut. This is where spending a few cents extra on the stress-flex bags pays off, because the metal cans have the two sharp ends of the can's handle projecting a bit inside the can. The stress flex bags will give a bit and not tear open if they catch on anything while removing them. Nonetheless, caution is needed here.

Then I just put the two bags out with the trash. I've done it this way for about ten years now, and an added benefit is that the trash guys don't have to dump two full ash cans into the back of their truck, as they did before I started using the bags. That couldn't have been pleasant.

Whoever posted the pic of the bushel-size ash tub brought back some memories. I remember my Dad using those in the early 60s in our house just outside Bloomsburg, PA. I think nearly every house in town had a coal furnace at that time. In 1963 we moved into another house in Bloomsburg, which had a coal stoker with a long, enclosed auger to feed the coal from the coal room next to the furnace room. It really was a room, too--based in my 5-ton coal bin, I'd guess that coal room would have held 15-20 tons easily. I seem to recall the cement floor of the room was sloped to the center, in order to gravity-feed the coal to the auger.

Not sure how common this was, but that furnace also had an ash auger, which ran to a lid that fitted a standard size metal ash can, and automatically dumped the ashes into the pan. Every day or so, Dad would switch the auger lid to an empty can, and set the full can aside till ash day. Like many coal region towns, Bloomsburg had a separate ash pickup day, and if I recall correctly, they saved at least some of the collected ashes to spread on the roads during the winter. We didn't watch for salt trucks on a snow day--we looked for cinder trucks.
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:27 pm

I think that the wife puts the ash in my soup ..... no proof yet though .... :)
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Re: Emptying the ash pan...tricks/tips?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:36 pm

"Whoever posted the pic of the bushel-size ash tub brought back some memories. I remember my Dad using those in the early 60s in our house just outside Bloomsburg, PA. I think nearly every house in town had a coal furnace at that time. In 1963 we moved into another house in Bloomsburg, which had a coal stoker with a long, enclosed auger to feed the coal from the coal room next to the furnace room. It really was a room, too--based in my 5-ton coal bin, I'd guess that coal room would have held 15-20 tons easily. I seem to recall the cement floor of the room was sloped to the center, in order to gravity-feed the coal to the auger."

Now theirs a mans man^^^ Build your whole dang foundation into one large coal bin with a sloped floor and order 30 ton at a time :dancing:
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