PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:59 pm

This is one tax I support as long as every penny is going to go towards roads and bridges, it's a user tax and it's sorely needed. Corbett is a pretty smart man, the liberals are getting what they want. A tax on the evil oil companies. :roll:


http://citizensvoice.com/news/pa-gasoli ... -1.1441388

Gov. Tom Corbett struck a populist note in this week's budget address, saying lifting the Oil Company Franchise Tax cap would force oil and gas companies to "pay their fair share." But the increase will likely be passed on to consumers at the pump and may make Pennsylvania gasoline the most heavily taxed in the nation.

As levied now, the tax is about 9 percent of the price of a gallon of gas, but calculated on a maximum price of $1.25 per gallon, yielding about 20.3 cents. By gradually lifting that cap over time to reflect actual gas prices - already more than double the cap - the amount of the tax paid per gallon could more than double.

Corbett tried to soften the blow by cutting another state tax on fuel, the excise tax, from 12 cents down to 10 cents.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:03 pm

But what happens when the left decides pickup trucks should get 100 mpg? Less fuel, less tax revenue. This is why the left (my state government) is harping on a mileage tax. They want to throw a chip on everyone's windshield that drives a car with no computer ... like ME. :x They'll download the info at inspection time, then really give it to ya good ... :|

In all reality this would work out better for me, and be more "fair" - the word Obama loves to throw around. IF you don't drive, you don;t get taxed. I'm tired of paying road taxes to mow my lawn and ride my ATV anyway.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Dennis On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:09 pm

SMITTY wrote:But what happens when the left decides pickup trucks should get 100 mpg? Less fuel, less tax revenue. This is why the left (my state government) is harping on a mileage tax. They want to throw a chip on everyone's windshield that drives a car with no computer ... like ME. :x They'll download the info at inspection time, then really give it to ya good ... :|

I think they should lower or do away with gas taxes and use the road tax like larger trucks use,since most vehicle are getting 30 mpg and the new hybred vehicles and the pick ups that are runnig veggie oil in them aren't paying there share of taxes for repairing the roads
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:11 pm

A mileage tax using a formula based on the cars average weight is the only fair way to go about it. If you're driving a hybrid or electric car you are paying little to nothing.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:29 pm

Lets see now another tax that I'm sure won't be passed on to consumers, higher turn pike fees, sells the lottery & at the same time opens more gambling, wants to sell the State Stores, & allow drilling in all state parks. The best part is then he can still raise the gas tax next year if not sooner, at that rate pretty soon I'll be getting some new dirt for my road, thanks to the Gov., might even be that imported dirt from China.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:35 pm

samhill wrote: higher turn pike fees,


Sam you know as well as I do the turnpike fees keep going up because Rendell raided it. That law needs to be repealed.


The best part is then he can still raise the gas tax next year if not sooner,


The gas tax the consumer pays at the pump is going down 2 cents, he is taxing the evil oil companies. :rofl:

What a great political maneuver to solve a problem that really needs to be addressed. It's a slam dunk.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: plumber On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:05 pm

At least ou have roads to show for it! Here 9.9 cents goes to fund the bus. The rest goes in the general fund where it is lost forever. I can sink my F-350 in some of the potholes!
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:35 pm

Plumber, the majority of my Township is dirt roads, I would have to drive 26 miles to be able to get public transportation. Why should the people around here & lots of other areas have to pay for new roads in the big cities along with the overpaid drivers & corruption that goes along with Gov. run transit? When I grew up around Pittsburgh just about every town had a local bus Co. & a larger few ran in between & everyone got to where they were going with little problem, then the Port Authority put them all out of business, bus routes were cut or eliminated & the union drivers & mechanics were making more than most other jobs plus great benefits & pensions. Being Gov. run all they ever do is raise rates & cut service & ask for more tax money, nice scam if you can do it legally.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:12 pm

i don't think thier should be any state excise tax of fuel. why? lets see, income tax, sales tax, inheritance tax, local tax, property tax, commuter tax, school tax, utilities surcharge& state excise tax, power generation tax, vehicle sales tax, tire road excise tax, Port Authority tax on tires list goes on and on. Problem is, not that theres not enough money to do what they want to do, Too many fingers in the pie on how to get it done, which usurps the tax away from intended purposes, mostly in salaries to people that work in the AGENCYS that manage the tax, and its intended purposes.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:17 pm

samhill wrote:Plumber, the majority of my Township is dirt roads, I would have to drive 26 miles to be able to get public transportation. .


Sam there is most certainly funds allocated to your area to help with those roads. The funny thing is and not that I agree with it I've heard the exact same argument the other way. The argument was rural roads get subsidized by the city because they have less vehicular travel.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:22 am

Your right Richard, the Township does get a couple bucks (I believe quarterly) from the F&E tax, can't remember the amt. but it's not much. That doesn't come from any city, it comes from fuel & excise taxes, when you need large equipment & vehicles for everyday work (mostly farms here) there is a lot of gas & fuel used so I would think if anything it goes the other way around. Don't get me wrong I choose to live here & have no regrets but it's exactly that attitude that we get money from the cities that bugs me. Most of the small area farms are barely making it as is & increased fuel cost isn't gonna help, I can stay home more but my neighbors still have to spread their *censored* everyday. Your buddy cut those business taxes twice before he then throws on a fee that will go directly to the price per gallon & calls it a hit on big oil. This after giving all the frackers a heck of a deal & even giving Shell close to two billion, naturally the richest counties in the state don't have to worry, no fracking their it might ruin someones view.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:43 am

samhill wrote:Your buddy cut those business taxes twice before he then throws on a fee that will go directly to the price per gallon & calls it a hit on big oil. This after giving all the frackers a heck of a deal & even giving Shell close to two billion, naturally the richest counties in the state don't have to worry, no fracking their it might ruin someones view.


Sam I haven't come right out and said it but you're missing my point. ALL taxes on business get passed onto the consumer. If you're goin g to tax the NG industry that is going to be reflected in the what you pay for NG and if you buy anything you're paying for NG. As far as shell goes it's an unfortunate game that all the states play, if PA doesn't play ball then they go to state that will. There go the jobs and taxes it will generate.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:14 pm

Well then I guess the con way of thinking may just be right then, get rid of any & all business taxes & just let the middle class pay for everything. I personally don't think it's the answer but sooner or later we're gonna have a go at it.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: tsb On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:17 pm

Now you got it.
Fascism. It kills the poor and the rich and controls the middle.
That's where Hitler went wrong. He raised the gas tax too high.
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Re: PA Gas Tax could be highest in Nation

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:49 pm

But under Corporatism the rich flourish & the middle gradually join the poor which is just about what we have now so why not just get on with it?
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