Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:50 pm

GO HOME!!! Common sense has left the building!! Climate change, global warming, different snow!!! All money makers for the "Right" people!!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:17 pm

Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.


You don't remember '93 and '96? If I recall '96 was worse becsue there was already a lot of snow the ground. In town there was walls of snow going the streets.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:39 pm

Richard S. wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.


You don't remember '93 and '96? If I recall '96 was worse becsue there was already a lot of snow the ground. In town there was walls of snow going the streets.



I remember them well. There was a lot of snow but it was winter, so it snowed. I was out plowing for 52hrs straight in 96 then after some sleep was out helping load trucks to dump it in the river. Then we had the flood with the ice, that sucked. They just seemed to make such a huge deal out of this storm and spread so much fear. If prepared it is no big deal. Not trying to make light of the situation but our society is getting soft.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:11 pm

Wait, what? This storm was created due to global warming? This storm was considered severe? Back in 1995 when I was still in highschool we got a snow storm so bad that the plow was unable to plow our street, there was a huge pile of snow right after our driveway that blocked the whole road. My father couldn't go to work for a few days and I was out of school for a week. It snowed for 2-3 days straight. I don't recall anyone mentioning anything about global warming back then...
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:55 pm

Richard S. wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.


You don't remember '93 and '96? If I recall '96 was worse becsue there was already a lot of snow the ground. In town there was walls of snow going the streets.

93-94 was snowy. We had snow storms every 3-4 days. 4, 6 &8 inches at a time. The counties ran out of salt and the roads froze into washboards and ruts. The ended up removing the 4-6" thick ice with a grader. Gave the Gravely dog eater a workout both of those winters, made a luge course in 95-96 . Kids lived it. IoF, my kids were off quite a while to. They'd stay out until 11 at night if we didn't call them in. The was so much snow piled at the bottom of my inclined drive that I had to cut indows thru them so I could see to pull out onto the road :shock:

Deepest snow I racially was in 83. 33 inches over night, got really warm the next day and nearly all of it melted!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Joeski On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:52 am

SMITTY wrote:
freetown fred wrote:SMITTY, I contracted my 10 wheeler out of Vt for that 78 one--bucket loaders would fill us up & we'd dump it in Boston Harbor--7 days--2 million trips--got a lot of drinkin money that winter--I think--can't really remember either .... Is EPA gonna do that on this one, or will they have them stick it up their ass's???

Oh My God .... not in the sewage-filled Boston Harbor! :lol: The treehuggers would be whipped into an angry frenzy if anyone put "contaminated" and "poison" snow in the Harbor these days ..... :roll:

They now treat plowed snow as hazardous waste .......... yeah, I'm totally serious here - I couldn't make up something so stupid .... :| It gets dumped somewhere with a catch basin to recycle & clean the meltwater. Wonder how much of my tax money goes to that abortion of a plan .....

SMITTY please tell me your just drunk and stir crazy from all the snow moving you did today and that ain't true. MA can't be that F___ed up? Please let no be the answer.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Joeski On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:13 am

Richard S. wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.


You don't remember '93 and '96? If I recall '96 was worse becsue there was already a lot of snow the ground. In town there was walls of snow going the streets.

You recall correctly Mayor if I recall it right. 93 had the one big monster from Florida traveling up to Maine and beyond to Canada, maybe even to Greenland for all I know. That was in March of 93. Started on Saturday early morning the 13th and ended on Sunday the 14th maybe mid day. Big time amounts of snow. The next winter mainly 1994 was very intense with cold & snow totals too. It had me move to California. I was out there for 18 months and ended up missing a mile winter in 1995 in Pa. However out there it was one of the wettest winters ever. Left California on 12/8/95 and got back to a lot of snow in Shavertown Pa just like you remember. 1996 was so over the top I remember a new color was added to the snow fall charts due to that one January storm. Then Mayor you might remember the big time January thaw that flooded the Susquehanna. Then snow all the way into April. The climate is always changing.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Joeski On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:21 am

Here's a great post from a British scientist who disproves all the global warming snake oil salesmen in many ways. I have the list posted below but here is the link.
beer and bread prices to soar, beer better, beer worse are some things that has been caused by global warming. I thought I put the worse first. Don't care about the bread though.

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

Here is his home page intro.

This site is devoted to the monitoring of the misleading numbers that rain down on us via the media. Whether they are generated by Single Issue Fanatics (SIFs), politicians, bureaucrats, quasi-scientists (junk, pseudo- or just bad), such numbers swamp the media, generating unnecessary alarm and panic. They are seized upon by media, hungry for eye-catching stories. There is a growing band of people whose livelihoods depend on creating and maintaining panic. There are also some who are trying to keep numbers away from your notice and others who hope that you will not make comparisons. Their stock in trade is the gratuitous lie. The aim here is to nail just a few of them. And the link http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/number%20watch.htm



A complete list of things caused by global warming

Apologies for a temporary delay in updating the dead link list

AIDS, Afghan poppies destroyed, African holocaust, aged deaths, poppies more potent, Africa devastated, Africa in conflict, African aid threatened, aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pockets, air pressure changes, airport farewells virtual, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Alaskan towns slowly destroyed, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy increase, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk, anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear, Arctic tundra lost, Arctic warming (not), a rose by any other name smells of nothing, asteroid strike risk, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, Baghdad snow, Bahrain under water, bananas grow, barbarisation, bats decline, beer and bread prices to soar, beer better, beer worse, beetle infestation, beef shortage, bet for $10,000, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billion homeless, billions face risk, billions of deaths, bird loss accelerating, bird populations dying, bird strikes, bird visitors drop, birds confused, birds decline (Wales), birds driven north, birds face longer migrations, birds on long migrations threatened, birds return early, birds shrink(Aus), birds shrink (USA), bittern boom ends, blackbirds stop singing, blackbirds threatened, Black Hawk down, blizzards, blood contaminated, blue mussels return, borders redrawn, bluetongue, brains shrink, brewers droop, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain one big city, Britain Siberian, Britain's bananas, British monsoon, brothels struggle, brown Ireland, bubonic plague, Buddhist temple threatened, building collapse, building season extension, bushfires, butterflies move north, butterflies reeling, butterfly saved, carbon crimes, caribou decline, Cambodian sex trade fuelled, camel deaths, cancer, cancer deaths in England, cannibalism, cataracts, cats more amorous, caterpillar biomass shift, cave paintings threatened, chagas disease, childhood insomnia, children's mental health, chocolate shortage, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase, clownfish get lost, coast beauty spots lost, cockroach migration, cod go south, coffee threatened, coffee berry borer, coffee berry disease, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells, cold spells (Australia), colder waters (Long Island), cold wave (India), cold weather (world), cold winters, computer models, conferences, conflict, conflict with Russia, consumers foot the bill, coral bleaching, coral fish suffer, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink, coral reefs twilight, cost of trillions, cougar attacks, crabgrass menace, cradle of civilisation threatened, creatures move uphill, crime increase, crocodile sex, crocodiles driven from water, crops devastated, crop failures increase, cross-breeding, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cryptococcal disease, curriculum change, cyclones (Australia), damselflies forced back to UK, danger to kid's health, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague, daylight increase, deadly virus outbreaks, death rate increase (US), death rate drop, deaths to reach 6 million, decades of progress at risk, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, depression, desert advance, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, dig sites threatened, disasters, diseases move north, diving reefs closed, dog disease, dozen deadly diseases - or not, drought, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, dust doubles, earlier pollen season, Earth axis tilt, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth crumbling, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down, earthquakes, earthquakes redux, El Niño intensification, end of the world as we know it, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, English villages lost, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, eutrophication, everyplace hit hardest, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (apes, human, civilisation, koalas, lizards, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, penguins, pikas, polar bears, possums, walrus, tigers, toads, turtles, pandas, penguins, plants, ladybirds, rhinoceros, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, mountain species, not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches, salamanders, tropical insects, flowers) experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage, famine, farmers benefit, farmers go under, farm output boost, farming soil decline, fashion disaster, fever, figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fires fanned in Nepal, fish bigger, fish catches drop, fish downsize, fish deaf, fish feminised, fish get lost, fish head north, fish lopsided, fish shrinking, fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flies on Everest, flood patterns change, floods, floods of beaches and cities, flood of migrants, flood preparation for crisis, flora dispersed, Florida economic decline, flowers in peril, flowers wilt, flying squirrels move up, fog increase in San Francisco, fog decrease in San Francisco, food poisoning, food prices rise, food prices soar, food production increased, food safety affected, food security threat (SA), football team migration, forest decline, forest expansion, foundations threatened, foundations increase grants, frog with extra heads, frosts, frostbite, frost damage increased, fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, fungi rot the world, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, geese decline in Hampshire, genetic changes, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, geysers imperiled, giant icebergs (Australia), giant icebergs (Arctic), giant oysters invade, giant pythons invade, giant squid migrate, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat, glacier grows (California), glaciers on Snowden, glacier wrapped, glass melts, global cooling, glowing clouds, golf course to drown, golf Masters wrecked, grain output drop (China), grain output stagnating (India), grandstanding, grasslands wetter, gravity shift, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, great tits cope, greening of the North, Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, haggis threatened, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, health affected, health of children harmed, health risks, health risks (even more), heart deaths, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hedgehogs bald, hibernation affected, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, homeless 50 million, home runs, hornets, human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health risk, human race oblivion, human rights violations, hurricanes, hurricane reduction, hurricanes fewer, hurricanes more intense, hurricanes not, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, hyphthermia deaths, ice age, ice hockey extinct, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, icebergs, ice sheet tipping point, illegal immigration, illness and death, inclement weather, India drowning, infrastructure failure (Canada), indigestion, industry threatened, infectious diseases, inflation in China, insect explosion, insect invasion, insurance premium rises, Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, invasion of alien worms, invasion of Antarctic aliens, invasion of Asian carp, invasion of cane toads, invasion of caterpillars, invasion of cats, invasion of crabgrass, invasion of herons, invasion of jellyfish, invasion of king crabs, invasion of lampreys, invasion of midges, invasion of pine beetles, invasion of rats (China), invasion of slugs, island disappears, islands sinking, Italy robbed of pasta, itchier poison ivy, Japan's cherry blossom threatened, jellyfish explosion, jets fall from sky, Kew Gardens taxed, kidney stones, killer cornflakes, killing us, kitten boom, koalas leaves inedible, koalas under threat, krill decline, lake empties, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, large trees decline, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers' income increased (surprise surprise!), lawyers want more, legionnaires' surge, lives lost, lizards super intelligent, lives saved, lobsters grow, Loch Ness monster dead, locust plagues suppressed, low oxygen zones threaten sea life, lush growth in rain forests, Lyme disease, Major vegetation shifts, Malaria, Malaria decline, malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, mammoth ivory bonanza, manatees battle, mango harvest fails, Maple production advanced, Maple syrup shortage, marmots fatter, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, Meaching (end of the world), Meat eating to stop, Mediterranean rises, megacryometeors, Melanoma, Melanoma decline, mental health decline, mental illness, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, methane runaway, melting permafrost, Mexican climate migrant flood, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migratory birds huge losses, microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, milk production lost, minorities hit, monkeys at risk, monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, moose dying, more bad air days, more research needed, mortality increased, mosquitoes adapting, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountaineers fears, mountains break up, mountains green and flowering, mountains taller, mortality lower, Mubarak fall, murder rate increase, musk ox decline, Myanmar cyclone, narwhals at risk, narwhals suffocate, National Parks damaged, National security implications, native wildlife overwhelmed, natural disasters quadruple, neurological diseases, new islands, next ice age, NFL threatened, Nile delta damaged, noctilucent clouds, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks dying, oaks move north, obesity, oblivion, ocean acidification, ocean acidification faster, ocean dead spots, ocean dead zones unleashed, ocean deserts expand, ocean salt extremes, ocean oxygen crisis, ocean waves speed up, Olympic Games to end, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened, owls turn brown, oxygen depletion zones, oyster herpes, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, peat bogs problem, peat bogs no problem, penguin chicks frozen, penguin chicks smaller, penguins in the dark, penguin populations devastated, penguins replaced by jellyfish, penguins sex lives affected, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, pets in danger, phenology shifts, pines decline, pirate population decrease, pirates run rampant, plankton blooms, plankton plummeting, plankton wiped out, plants lose protein, plants march north, plants move uphill, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears deaf, polar bears drowning, polar bears fewer cubs, polar tours scrapped, pollination halved, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychiatric illness, psychological effects, puffin decline, pushes poor women into prostitution, rabid bats, radars taken out, rail network threatened, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainforest destruction, rape wave, refugees, reindeer endangered, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, respiratory diseases worsen, rice less fragrant, rice production fall, rice threatened, rice yields crash, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, river flow impacted, river rerouted, rivers raised, road accidents, roads wear out, robins rampant, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, rooftop bars, Ross river disease, Russia under pressure, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, sardine run unpredictable, satellites accelerate, Schmallenberg virus, school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sea snot, seals mating more, seismic activity, sewer bills rise, severe thunderstorms, sex change, sexual dysfunction, sexual promiscuity, shark attacks, sharks booming, sharks hybridise, sharks moving north, sheep change colour, sheep shrink, shop closures, short-nosed dogs endangered, shrimp sex problems, shrinking ponds, shrinking sheep, shrinking shrine, Sidney Opera House wiped out, ski resorts threatened, slavery, skinks impacted, slow death, smaller brains, smog, snowfall decrease, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy, snow thicker, soaring food prices, societal collapse, soil change, soil subsidence, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, soybean crop to drop, space junk increase, space problem, spectacular orchids, spider danger in UK, spider bites to increase, spiders getting bigger, spiders invade Scotland, squid aggressive giants, squid larger, squid population explosion, squid tamed, squirrels reproduce earlier, starfish sperm eaten by parasites, stingray invasion, storm damage costs rise, storms wetter, stratospheric cooling, street crime to increase, subsidence, suicide, sunset displaced, swordfish in the Baltic, Tabasco tragedy, taxes, tea flavour change, tectonic plate movement, teenage prostitution, terrorists (India), thatched cottages at risk, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tigers eat people, tigers drown, tomatoes rot, tornado outbreak, tourism increase, toxic bacteria, toxic seaweed, trade barriers, trade winds weakened, traffic jams, transport snarl, transportation threatened, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, tree growth faster, trees grow too fast, trees in trouble, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, trees lush, trees on Antarctica, treelines change, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, truffle shortage, truffles down, truffles increase, turtles crash, turtle feminised, turtles lay earlier, UFO sightings, UK coastal impact, UK Katrina, vampire bats, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, volcanoes awakened in Iceland, walnuts threatened, walrus pups orphaned, walrus stampede, walruses come ashore, wars over water, wars sparked, wars threaten billions, wasps, water bills double, water shortage to increase vegetarianism, wave of natural disasters, waves bigger, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weather patterns last longer, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whale beachings, whales lose weight, whales move north, whales wiped out, wheat rust in Syria, wheat yields crushed in Australia, wild boars thrive, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, winds stronger, winds weaker, wine - Australian baked, , wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine - more English, wine - no more French , wine - England too hot, wine -German boon, wine passé (Napa), wine - Scotland best, wine stronger, winters in Britain colder, winter in Britain dead, witchcraft executions, wolverine decline, wolverines vanish, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, women cheat on vacation, workers laid off, World at war, World War 4, Yellow fever, zebra mussel threat, zoonotic diseases.

and all on 0.006 deg C per year!

Advice of any omissions (with sources) or broken links is welcome at warmlist@numberwatch.co.uk

Note: All links were live at time of posting. Inevitably some will disappear, particularly from Yahoo News.

Thanks to correspondents for additional entries; especially, as always, Our Man in Puerto Rico. Also, thanks to "Scraperguy" for the script to form the following:

The dead link collection

Acne, Africa hit hardest, African summer frost, agricultural land increase, Alaska reshaped, anxiety, Arctic tundra to burn, atmospheric defiance, bananas destroyed, beer shortage, bird distributions change, blizzards, boredom, brain eating amoebae, business opportunities, business risks, British gardens change, budget increases, cardiac arrest, cataracts, challenges and opportunities, cloud stripping, cremation to end, damages equivalent to $200 billion, dermatitis, desert life threatened, diarrhoea, disappearance of coastal cities, Dolomites collapse, drought in distant regions, drowning people, early marriages, early spring, Earth spinning out of control, Earth wobbling, evolution accelerating, extinctions (bats, pigmy possums, koalas, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, gorillas, whales, frogs,) fainting, fish catches rise, flames stoked, footpath erosion, glacial growth, global dimming, god melts, Gore omnipresence, Great Lakes drop, harmful algae, hazardous waste sites breached, high court debates, HIV epidemic, human health improvement, ice shelf collapse, jet stream drifts north, lake and stream productivity decline, lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, lost $350 billion, Lyme disease, marine dead zone, Maple production advanced, mental illness (Alberta), migration difficult (birds), mountains melting, mudslides, oceans noisier, oyster diseases, ozone loss, Pacific dead zone, plankton destabilised, plankton loss, plant viruses, polar bears starve, psychosocial disturbances, popcorn rise, rainfall reduction, riches, rivers dry up, rockfalls, ruins ruined, skin cancer, smelt down, snowfall reduction, stick insects, stormwater drains stressed, teenage drinking, terrorism, tree beetle attacks, trees could return to Antarctic, tree growth increased, tsunamis, tundra plant life boost, uprooted - 6 million, Vampire moths, violin decline, walrus displaced, war, war between US and Canada, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, water supply unreliability, weeds, white Christmas dream ends, wine - harm to Australian industry, World bankruptcy, World-famous places threatened, World in crisis, World in flames,

Suggestions for replacement links are welcome.

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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:19 am

In 1954 my Grandfather won the contract to plow the towns roads, which coincided with the Blizzard of 1954. I am not sure what the snowfall total was, but it was substantial enough so that his trucks could not push the snow, so the town got a bigger contractor to come in and do the job for him with a road grader. The town also took that money out of his contract saying that he took on the job and was unable to do it, and the towns people should not be financially obligated by his inadequacy.

That would never happen today. Even if the price of fuel goes up, the plowing contractor asks for a fuel bonus and often gets it. The same thing goes for the Ice Storm of 1998 when the contractors began fighting over who was going to get the FEMA Money, and everyone wanted. This makes my Grandfather livid...
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:28 am

Global warming is so silly, they have proven that it is a hoax and yet they continue to beat a dead horse. I know my Grandmother was cnvinced of it because winters seem so mild to her compared to when she was a child. I remember my Grandmother saying they had snow drifts up to the tops of the telephone poles. The funny thing is, she was right...

Back in her day they used local, rot resistant trees which were cedars, short stubby trees that seldom reached 20 feet tall or so. Today the power companies import lodgepole pine that is pressure treated to prevent rot, and thus the poles are a lot taller, about twice as high.

At the same time, in her day, this area of Maine was 90% fields and 10% forest. With the huge loss in agriculture, Maine has reverted back to 90% forest and only 10% field, so there was a lot more drifting and blowing snow in all those open fields. So in her day, she does remember the snow being deeper, because with all that blowing and drifting snow, it was, and when they cleared the roads, it was pushed under powerlines that were a lot shorter. She is not really wrong, just contributing factors to why she is comparing apples to oranges with the same amount of snow.

As for my own house I can see what a small amount of change does to the microclimate; we got a wind storm the other day that was the strongest I have ever felt. But there again, a few years ago my home was in a 4 acre field. Throughout the years I have been clearing land to make room for more sheep. Now my house sits in 70 acres of open land. I live on a big hill, high enough so that I can see Mt Washington in New Hampshire which is over 100 miles away. Yep it is a big hill, so now that I have cleared so much land around me, the winds are stronger because there is no buffering from nearby forests. Same winds, they are just slamming into the house and not blowing over the top of it.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:53 am

NoSmoke wrote

That would never happen today. Even if the price of fuel goes up, the plowing contractor asks for a fuel bonus and often gets it. The same thing goes for the Ice Storm of 1998 when the contractors began fighting over who was going to get the FEMA Money, and everyone wanted. This makes my Grandfather livid...[/quote]
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A friend of mine owns the largest snow removal companies in the Northeast.
they do about 9 million dollars...(yes-millions) a year just pushing snow ( all commercial)
they have 1 contract that is worth around 2,million dollars here locally....
the contract has a snow threshold.... based on snowfall totals recorded at the airport.
they missed this threshold 1 year by 1/8 th of an inch.
he has never told me exactly what his threshold bonus is.... but it is rumored to be another 20 percent of the years contract....
he has has told me before... that it is due to insurance that his prices are so high.
I told him he should shop around for liability and comp...
laughing.... he told me that it wasn't HIS insurance he was talking about...
People are so sue happy.... and large businesses pay out the nose to prevent lawsuits
basically you can blame the insurance company ... which happily pay out slips and falls accidents all winter...
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:02 am

Cont....

not only do people forget how to drive in the winter around here.... they also forget how to walk!!
and they're not afraid to sue if they slip in a parking lot...and fall.
I did an emergency concrete repair for him 1 winter.... because a woman broke her ankle stepping off the sidewalk in the middle of winter as she left a shopping center... WEARING HIGH HEELS!!!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:03 am

While I firmly believe manmade global warming is a fraud, pointing out huge snow events from your life time as an argument against it makes no sense. The global warming alarmists will tell you that manmade global warming started with the industrial age long before any of us were born. Don't confuse weather with climate. Climate is what happens over a very long period of time. The earth has warmed and cooled many times in its history and will continue to do so regardless of what we do. It's the arrogance of man to think we can actually influence it.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:20 am

Hey ck, I think whistlenut was born back then! :clap: toothy and YES, you're right on that--brainiacs--the need to know the unknowable--It's ashame we did not learn more from the Native Americans, plus it being an insult to the Creator :(
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:42 am

derpa derpa derpa .....
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