Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:29 pm

I bet you saw this coming:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/0 ... 49587.html

A few choice excerpts:

Michael Oppenheimer, a climate change expert at Princeton University, said global warming is increasing extreme storms. "Storms like this tend to be heavier than they used to be," he told HuffPost. "That's a fact."

Penn State's Mann [Michael Mann, a climatologist who directs the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University] also likes to use baseball metaphors when describing climate's influence on major storms -- "home runs," he calls them. "What we're seeing now with climate change is weather on steroids."
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:39 pm

I guess they never heard of the Blizzards from '93 or '96. These types of things are really aimed at the young people that have never experience this before. :roll:
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:53 pm

This used to be what we called "normal" around here. I haven't seen this much snow in years!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:25 pm

I really think this whole nonsense is something to push political agenda's. Think about, we all know how the media likes to be unbiased right :yearight: , so whats a young easily influenced person going to think. Exactly what the media reports. And then the greedy politician who wants to stay in or get elected will pursue the story to "look good" for the easily influenced group. Old fella I worked with said this once, the earth is like a living breathing animal. Thier will be a day that it shakes the fleas off and cleans itself. Makes sense the more i think about it. It wont be around forever and regardless of what we do to try to curb this it will happen. Natural Cycle hippies!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:42 pm

Richard S. wrote:I guess they never heard of the Blizzards from '93 or '96. These types of things are really aimed at the young people that have never experience this before. :roll:



....hmmmm

what about the blizzard of ' 66... ???
...or am i dating myself?? :D


...actually...these "super storms" are brought to us courtesy of H.A.A.R.P :jawdrop:
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:04 pm

I hear there were a few big ones in the 1800's too. ;)

To add to last century, the Blizzard of '78 - that was the biggest storm in MA history. Cars abandoned on highways, people stuck in their houses for 6 days .. total mayhem. Wonder what the excuse for that storm was ..... I can't remember. :lol: And there was no name - it was what it was - THE BLIZZARD OF '78! :doh: :woot:
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:31 pm

Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:38 pm

Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.


Perhaps this storm is telling you its time to buy another one? :)
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:43 pm

Flyer5 wrote:Since when did 8-24"of snow become a national emergency? I remember having lots of snow till about 1988 when I bought my first snow plow.



...i cant remember the year...but i was only a kid
..any ways we always attended midnight mass on Christmas Eve..
It was just starting to snow as we got to church...( it was looking like it maybe a green Christmas)
...we left church to find nearly 18 inches of snow has fallen during Mass.
Everyone simply brushed off their car and drove home... it was winter.
we get snow in the winter.... it was no big deal.
I think this is just a cycle... within a cycle
... but my point was back then... a lot of snow was the norm
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:07 pm

Sooooo..........

Are you guys suggesting that global warming doesnt exist or that it doesnt have anything to do with the snowstorm or huricanes or gun violence or......? :what:
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:14 pm

SMITTY, I contracted my 10 wheeler out of Vt for that 78 one--bucket loaders would fill us up & we'd dump it in Boston Harbor--7 days--2 million trips--got a lot of drinkin money that winter--I think--can't really remember either :shots: :clap: toothy Is EPA gonna do that on this one, or will they have them stick it up their ass's???
SMITTY wrote:I hear there were a few big ones in the 1800's too.

To add to last century, the Blizzard of '78 - that was the biggest storm in MA history. Cars abandoned on highways, people stuck in their houses for 6 days .. total mayhem. Wonder what the excuse for that storm was ..... I can't remember. And there was no name - it was what it was - THE BLIZZARD OF '78!
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:47 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:Sooooo..........

Are you guys suggesting that global warming doesnt exist or that it doesnt have anything to do with the snowstorm or huricanes or gun violence or......? :what:



Through the past 4 1/2 billion years the earth has warmed and cooled and warmed and cooled. Not much we can do about it. It will continue long after we are gone. So to answer the question I do believe in climate change and weather. As far as the term global warming I think that is something Al Gore came up with to make money.
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:50 pm

freetown fred wrote:SMITTY, I contracted my 10 wheeler out of Vt for that 78 one--bucket loaders would fill us up & we'd dump it in Boston Harbor--7 days--2 million trips--got a lot of drinkin money that winter--I think--can't really remember either .... Is EPA gonna do that on this one, or will they have them stick it up their ass's???

Oh My God .... not in the sewage-filled Boston Harbor! :lol: The treehuggers would be whipped into an angry frenzy if anyone put "contaminated" and "poison" snow in the Harbor these days ..... :roll:

They now treat plowed snow as hazardous waste .......... yeah, I'm totally serious here - I couldn't make up something so stupid .... :| It gets dumped somewhere with a catch basin to recycle & clean the meltwater. Wonder how much of my tax money goes to that abortion of a plan .....
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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:14 pm

SMITTY wrote:
freetown fred wrote:SMITTY, I contracted my 10 wheeler out of Vt for that 78 one--bucket loaders would fill us up & we'd dump it in Boston Harbor--7 days--2 million trips--got a lot of drinkin money that winter--I think--can't really remember either .... Is EPA gonna do that on this one, or will they have them stick it up their ass's???

Oh My God .... not in the sewage-filled Boston Harbor! :lol: The treehuggers would be whipped into an angry frenzy if anyone put "contaminated" and "poison" snow in the Harbor these days ..... :roll:

They now treat plowed snow as hazardous waste .......... yeah, I'm totally serious here - I couldn't make up something so stupid .... :| It gets dumped somewhere with a catch basin to recycle & clean the meltwater. Wonder how much of my tax money goes to that abortion of a plan .....



This must go through your head quite often Smitty. :D

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Re: Nor'easter intensified by global warming (climate change)

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Oh My God .... not in the sewage-filled Boston Harbor! :lol: The treehuggers would be whipped into an angry frenzy if anyone put "contaminated" and "poison" snow in the Harbor these days ..... :roll:

They now treat plowed snow as hazardous waste .......... yeah, I'm totally serious here - I couldn't make up something so stupid .... :| It gets dumped somewhere with a catch basin to recycle & clean the meltwater. Wonder how much of my tax money goes to that abortion of a plan .....[/quote]

Smitty...
Its not just Mass
..years ago the company i worked for won a bid at Hancock International Airport (in Syracuse) to construct 2 huge underground concrete catch basins on each end of their outdoor parking structure.
These were roughly 20' x 20' vaults...16 feet deep...with 24 drain pipe at the bottom..
They were designed to "contain" the snow melt water for only the snow they removed from the top level of the parking garage..( which hardly ever sees traffic in the winter except for spring break travelers. This end of the project was just under a million dollars...not including the "processing" phase of the project. All fed money too...and received a big hourly wage too.( even higher than our union scale)
The proje ct engineers would stop in and check on things from time to time ( when the weather permitted)...and one day i asked him "wow...this is quite an undertaking for a parking garage ( that wasn't really too large)...
.."I cant imagine the system you utilize for the miles and miles of runway here ?!"
... he just looked at me and said- "uhh....well that snow is different"
:doh:
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