Coal isn't coal....

Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: Yanche On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:16 pm

leowis1 wrote:My ash does look like Granolas. But its a Kaki color. Not reddish? Is this good or bad? :oops:

I'm out of the loop. What does UAE stand for?
It's the name of the coal mine and breaker. Listed as "UAE Coalcorp Associates" PO Box 306, Mount Carmel, PA in the US DoE coal mining companies database.
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:11 pm

leowis1 wrote:My ash does look like Granolas. But its a Kaki color. Not reddish? Is this good or bad? :oops:

I'm out of the loop. What does UAE stand for?
Here is the links Yanche was talking about it shows all of the deep Anthracite coal mines left in Pa The next two links are all of the Anthracite stripping mines left in PA. The last one shows all of there Adresses


http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table04_anthracite_underground.htm
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http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table05_anthracite_surface.htm
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http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table06_anthracite_refuse.htm
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http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table08_anthracite_operators.htm
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:11 pm

hmm i've never heard of superior.......we use coal from the hegins mining co........tried sherman coal once......didnt like it.......got nut coal once from the quarry in minersville once and it was full of rock (100 bucks for 2 scoops) my lady friend lives over near gowen city.....her and her mother burn rice coal and the coal from that valley is excellent too......not sure on the price this yr......last yr they were getting it for 125 a ton delivered (her moms a little old lady that's lived there her whole life.....breaker 2 miles away dont get your hopes up for cheap coal lol)........my father swore by reading coal in the 60's but i've noticed they strip mine now........the deep/strip mined mix burns the best.......speaking of it's 71 degrees in my 3200 square foot auto repair shop hehe.........got the efm running at 4 clicks......i was cuttin it down to 2 clicks but efm man said that's bad, so 4 clicks till i get some kind of timer.
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: mwcougar On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:20 pm

UAE running fine in my AHS 130 not much ash just bigger and harder clinkers than normal strip mine coal . does not bother it and i have less ash to deal with. will soon be going for another load . i hope they can make a 1 1/2 ton limit :x
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: spc On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:21 pm

butchs37 wrote:so I travel to UAE Harmony mine to get my coal. The only problem is they set a 1 ton max limit on how much you can get.

You can only get 1 ton at a time? I wanted to make a trip from RI to the UAE Harmony mine but not for 1 ton.
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:30 pm

spc wrote:
butchs37 wrote:so I travel to UAE Harmony mine to get my coal. The only problem is they set a 1 ton max limit on how much you can get.

You can only get 1 ton at a time? I wanted to make a trip from RI to the UAE Harmony mine but not for 1 ton.

Yes Right now they are having Machinery Problems It Is Slowing down Production once everything is fixed they will lift the one ton limit There are more then one breaker to go to :)
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:53 pm

lincolnmania wrote:hmm i've never heard of superior.......we use coal from the hegins mining co........tried sherman coal once......didnt like it.......got nut coal once from the quarry in minersville once and it was full of rock (100 bucks for 2 scoops) my lady friend lives over near gowen city.....her and her mother burn rice coal and the coal from that valley is excellent too......not sure on the price this yr......last yr they were getting it for 125 a ton delivered (her moms a little old lady that's lived there her whole life.....breaker 2 miles away dont get your hopes up for cheap coal lol)........my father swore by reading coal in the 60's but i've noticed they strip mine now........the deep/strip mined mix burns the best.......speaking of it's 71 degrees in my 3200 square foot auto repair shop hehe.........got the efm running at 4 clicks......i was cuttin it down to 2 clicks but efm man said that's bad, so 4 clicks till i get some kind of timer.

You are not that far away go up and over on Rout 25 I think you are about 500 or so ft from Rt 25 anyway :lol: go threw hegins past valley veiw school about a 1/2 to 1 miles on your left you will see Schwenks Road take it go back 1/4 to 1/2 mile you can't miss it the breaker is on your left the scale is on the right 140.00 aton Deep mine coal they have 2 Plus a open top vein they are digging into Or if you won't to go to Summit Anthracite inc. get on I-81 go down to the 107 exit when you come up the ramp take a right towards Good spring / Jolliett about a 1/2 mile up the hill there will be a road on your right that is main st. take it down to the bottom on your right you will see a sign & a dirt road for Summit Anthracite go back a 1/2 mile the breaker will be on your left at the bottom they are 140.00 a ton open 6 am to 2 pm on saturday 6am to 4 pm Mon - fri Superior coal is 7am to 3pm mon - fri Sat 7am to 12 noon Pine Creek is also out there on RT.25 instead of turning at Schwenks road stay on 25 a 1/2 mile you will see them on your left Go out and try Superior coal or Summit
you will like it ;)
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:02 pm

earl didnt jack our price yet, and it's 1/4 mi by road to get there....you got me pinpointed lol i can see 25 and 209 from my place.....i'm in the old auction house
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:38 pm

lincolnmania wrote:earl didnt jack our price yet, and it's 1/4 mi by road to get there....you got me pinpointed lol i can see 25 and 209 from my place.....i'm in the old auction house
Yea I forgot you have to come out and go up the 209 hill a little then turn right on to 25 You must be getting the coal off of Earl's good pile :lol: Go out and try the other's you won't mine paying a little more once you try it You are in Pete's shcultz old place that's a big place if I remember ther are three buliding's What breaker is out in Cowen city I know there are deep mines out there but don't know of any breaker's
out there :?:
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:43 pm

mwcougar wrote:UAE running fine in my AHS 130 not much ash just bigger and harder clinkers than normal strip mine coal . does not bother it and i have less ash to deal with. will soon be going for another load . i hope they can make a 1 1/2 ton limit :x

Hey mike are you still mixing it or are you running only UAE in it and how many days now The reason I am asking you should not be getting any clinker with it It should burn up to a powder ash :?: let me know PM me keep warm ;)
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:06 pm

Matthaus wrote:Welcome to the forum, :) If you travel a little further than the exit for UAE you can get some good deep mined coal at Superior in Hegins (exit 112 or 107 depending on how you get there). I burned a couple of tons of Agel last year, is strip mined and about 20 to 25% ash you will be emptying your ash 4 to 5 times more often than UAE! :x

Our resident coal breaker and beer guide (AKA coal berner) showed me where Superior is and I have burned it for a week now, burns a little hotter than UAE and has a 12 to 15% ash so is a good alternative. ;)
Superior coal is Runnig RIGHT Now at 10 to 14 % Ash content They test it weekly it should be at 8 to 10% that is there normal range they are in a the begining of a new vein of coal that is why it is running high it will change once they get in deeper you would take the 112exit for superior if you like going down and up big hills the 107 exit is less /smaller hills Plus Summit Anthracite is 2 miles from the exit Mr Matthaus lets keep the facts straight remember who is the newbie here about Deep mine coal you also forgot who showed you where UAE was There Ash content is running between 6 to 7% :P :lol: :lol:
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:30 am

coal berner wrote:
lincolnmania wrote:earl didnt jack our price yet, and it's 1/4 mi by road to get there....you got me pinpointed lol i can see 25 and 209 from my place.....i'm in the old auction house
Yea I forgot you have to come out and go up the 209 hill a little then turn right on to 25 You must be getting the coal off of Earl's good pile :lol: Go out and try the other's you won't mine paying a little more once you try it You are in Pete's shcultz old place that's a big place if I remember ther are three buliding's What breaker is out in Cowen city I know there are deep mines out there but don't know of any breaker's
out there :?:


yea petes old place......he's still going strong, 78 yrs old......trying to convince him to let me look at his efm boiler.....we took his ash out and spread it for him and it's half coal....he swears by blaschak in ravine.... and he's burning rice....we burn buckwheat and it's mostly powder.....i fix his used cars too, let me know if you see anything in front of his place, i'll give you the lowdown on it.......i'll get the name of the breaker over there near treverton soon.......my gf knows exactly where it is, last yr she was bringing me loads of rice coal in her ranger.........last yr it was 110 a ton picked up......seems to burn decent in her moms alaska.....gettin better mileage out of the buckwheat tho.......have to try around........hell if i open up the old coal road in the woods i could be to earls breaker in a couple hundred feet......stop by sometime, would love to meet u
scott
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:35 am

they must be so jealous of us way out there in the midwest and new england gettin picky over the best anthracite coal
i love this forum guys! my passions cars and coal stoves hehe
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:36 am

coal berner wrote:..... Mr Matthaus lets keep the facts straight remember who is the newbie here about Deep mine coal ... :lol:


Of course you are right Mr Jay! :lol: I didn't even know the difference 6 months ago. ;)
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Re: Coal isn't coal....

PostBy: spc On: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:48 am

lincolnmania wrote:they must be so jealous of us way out there in the midwest and new england gettin picky over the best anthracite coal
i love this forum guys! my passions cars and coal stoves hehe

Yeah rub it in :nana: Thanks. I would really like to try deep mined anthracite coal without traveling 350 miles, one way.
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