New poll for climate

Climate change, what is causing it? What will happen because of it

Poll ended at Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:42 am

Global warming caused by humans
3
9%
Global warming just plain climate change
11
31%
15yr or so cycle the earth goes through
8
23%
We will see the earth cooling again in a few yrs
3
9%
We are all doomed and the icebergs are going to melt
1
3%
We will all be eaten by Polar Bears
6
17%
Natural climate cycle accelerated by industrial revolution
3
9%
 
Total votes : 35

New poll for climate

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:42 am

Just for fun. :D You can select 2.
Last edited by Flyer5 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:12 am

I know the sun goes through cycles of about 20 years in duration. It is also consistently heating up as it ages, but that takes extremely long periods for measurable differences, so is likely not relevant here.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:27 am

Come on Larry, you're a brainiac---everything is relevant ;)
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:40 am

freetown fred wrote:Come on Larry, you're a brainiac---everything is relevant ;)


The data I saw indicated that every ton of Hydrogen gas that gets converted into Helium in the center of the Sun forces the Sun to contract just a little bit and that raises its temperature just a bit. The sun will as a consequence be outputting 10% more energy in 1.1 billion years.

If I may be permitted to linearize this exponential function over this 1.1 billion year period, that becomes 1% more energy every 110 million years. This is clearly however exponential in nature, so it probably can be linearized as I have just done (for 10 x 110 million year periods) only over such short time spans, and due to the exponential nature of this the Sun's percentage of gain in output in the past such incremental periods of 110 million years was far less than it will be in the future.

My wild guess is that when life first started on Earth, the sun was outputting only about 95% of the energy that it currently outputs. The Earth may have been warmer back then though, due to its own internal heat.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:51 am

I think if mans causing any change in climate it is too small to calculate. On the other hand I believe the sun has a huge role in climate change as do natural events like volcanoes. Scientist need grants to do their research and there is nothing like a crisis to loosen up the flow of dollars. Remember this one?
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:51 am

I'm gonna go with a normal Earth cycle. Something the media, politicians and sheep don't seem to understand. Also Polar Bears. We'll all be eaten by them. Apparently, we're tasty.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:16 am

I just checked into this, and when the sun first went nuclear about 4.5 billion years ago it had only 70% of its current energy output.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:38 am

Larry, those HUGE White Objects closing in on you WILL make your Birth Certificate a worthless document!!! ...a couple quick CHOMPS, and you will be a 'red spot in the snow!!!

Analyze this quickly...they are on the way!!!!!!! .....The OTHER Great Whites! :!: :!: :!: :!: :shock:
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:05 pm

Dave

How about a option like--- Natural climate cycle accelerated by industrial revolution. Im going with that and the polor bear thing. :D

Waldo
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:07 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:Dave

How about a option like--- Natural climate cycle accelerated by industrial revolution. Im going with that and the polor bear thing. :D

Waldo


I can't change it now since it started. But wouldn't that be the same as #1?

Nevermind I added it, I was looking in the wrong spot to edit

OOOpps That screwed it up. I will have to apply for more funding. :D
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:45 pm

Don't bother to bring your lunch tomorrow.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:25 pm

I think there is a cycle that the weather patterns go through i know the winter of 10 was unusaly cold around here it wasnt the low temps but we had january weather from mid december till mid february, then we didnt really have a winter in 11. So i think its just the weather being the weather what can you do?

I find it odd that I couldnt turn anything up on the time old time magazine Id like to see that things the recomended we do.
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Re: New poll for climate

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:02 pm

franco b wrote:Don't bother to bring your lunch tomorrow.




Thanks, I guess its off with my :chop: :D
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