Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:12 pm

samhill wrote:I find it so hard to believe that so many seemingly intelligent people can be so self centered & stupid in other things. Can't some keep petty politics out of anything? What makes some feel so important that they should be privy to anything & everything, just WTF do you think you are even suggesting such things as the cold blooded murder of our children would be justified to gain what. WTF would be to gain. :mad:



Not saying I believe one way or the other. But you have to admit the current administration has been caught with a lot of vague answers. Benghazi, Fast and furious and Sandy Hook. Oh yea OBL death. They are so set on leaving doubt. Why hide this *censored* if nothing is needing hiding. I would have felt better seeing that SOB OBL dead full of holes.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:13 pm

rockwood wrote:How 'bout gun control?

"The incident prompted renewed debate about gun control in the United States, and a proposal for new legislation banning the sale and manufacture of certain types of semi-automatic firearms and magazines with more than ten rounds of ammunition."



I don't think it went the way they hoped.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:07 pm

samhill wrote:I find it so hard to believe that so many seemingly intelligent people can be so self centered & stupid in other things. Can't some keep petty politics out of anything? What makes some feel so important that they should be privy to anything & everything, just WTF do you think you are even suggesting such things as the cold blooded murder of our children would be justified to gain what. WTF would be to gain. :mad:



Sam, if your going to comment you should at least listen to what the man had to say. He spoke for 45 minutes. In a nut shell what he is saying is that no one died. He makes very good points to support that theory.

He was also involved in the aftermath of Columbine, Jonesboro and I believe at least one other shooting. The fact that his life has been threatened if he does not back off his investigation speaks volumes.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:09 pm

I guess no one died in any school shooting 9/11 or most other things. If I was so paranoid & distrusting of my Gov. I would be sending this out from another country. No matter how well prepared you think you are & how many guns & ammo you have if they want you your dead, no ifs &s or buts & you will never even know.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:20 pm

samhill wrote:I guess no one died in any school shooting 9/11 or most other things. If I was so paranoid & distrusting of my Gov. I would be sending this out from another country. No matter how well prepared you think you are & how many guns & ammo you have if they want you your dead, no ifs &s or buts & you will never even know.


So you are saying the government would have me killed and that doesn't bother you enough to consider leaving the country.

Interesting.....
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:36 pm

Once again Spinmaster Jpete, are you quite sure you don't have a reading comp. problem or do you just spin things for fun? I clearly talked about what I would do if I were that distrusting, I would have been long gone. As for the Gov. killing someone that they had reason to they could do it, simple as that. I never said I agree with or promote it I just very simply said they could to anyone no matter how big, bad & prepared. If they wanted to, if they actually did then there would be a lot more people no longer here, think about that & spin as you wish.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:38 pm

samhill wrote:I guess no one died in any school shooting 9/11 or most other things. If I was so paranoid & distrusting of my Gov. I would be sending this out from another country. No matter how well prepared you think you are & how many guns & ammo you have if they want you your dead, no ifs &s or buts & you will never even know.



Thats right Sam, as someone here once said the government would kill you and your entire family if it furthered there agenda.
Now who are you calling distrusting of the Gov ? Me? I hope not because I have not offered my opinion on this matter.

If you are assuming this guy is then I think since you have not listened to what he said nor looked at his credentials than that is an unfair assumption.

Furthermore only a fool would trust the government, our government has quite a long history of lying to us, drugging us, running experiments on us, exposing us to radiation just to see what would happen. And at one point they were sterilizing some people just because they knew better. Just a few examples..

So you can call someone paranoid and distrusting of the Government but you cant call them foolish.

I'm sure you think he's a conspiracy theorist...
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Are conspiracy theorists really the sane ones?
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:01 pm

Yea look at all the crazies that are saying the government can read all your texts and emails. And track you with your phone. Next someone will say that they are trying to create a federal data base of license plates with video software that can also track every vehicle via satellite. We all know none of this stuff could happen let alone any huge conspiracy like Sandy Hook or 9-11.

I am not sure what they are capable of anymore.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:11 pm

Grumpy, which guy are you talking about? As I said if this guy had hard evidence of any cover-up he would be gone. ( & no Jpete I didn't say he did or anything else) what credentials has anyone shown, they don't exist, nothing exist. The point is anyone that is so low as to make a living or at least a buck, notoriety or whatever out of other peoples suffering is lower than whale crap. My B in L up in Windsor has talked at length with a ex co-worker from Pratt & Whitney that went with (can't remember if it was a son or daughter) when they identified their child & he still has major issues. As I said people can post anything they want but it doesn't make it true. It does however make them somewhat less than human to use it for their own advantage, if you look for only what you want to find then that's all you'll ever see. Also I have said before that my wife still has issues with the crash at Shanksville, a person that has seen many things doesn't get like that from nothing. You have your belief & I mind so I'll just leave it at that. No hard feelings nuff said.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:14 pm

Flyer, besides me how many people do you know that track stuff for the Gov. & how many do you think it would take? Besides I have several different plates on my vehicles that I can rotate from a button on the dash, doesn't ever car have that? ;)
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:26 pm

Sam, I'm talking about the guy who did ten months investigating sandy hook to prove it happened. He has not been able to do that, do you understand that. He can NOT prove the OS true. He is being stonewalled with his FOIA request and his life has been threatened for asking questions.. does that not tell you something...
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:46 pm

samhill wrote:Flyer, besides me how many people do you know that track stuff for the Gov. & how many do you think it would take? Besides I have several different plates on my vehicles that I can rotate from a button on the dash, doesn't ever car have that? ;)



Yea all my vehicles are equipped now. Paid for it with subsidies. :D I am not sure where things are going but. Stacking deep comes to mind. Like I stated I am not sure what to believe anymore. So I am doing the best I can and surviving. Plan for the best prepare for the worst.
When I was flying I would practice engine failures and consider the possibilities at different times. I would even go as far as shutting off the engine at 5000' or 6000' gliding to a predetermined landing spot on the runway.
I never experienced a true engine failure but I always felt confident it would not be an emergency if I did. So I will approach our current situation with government much the same. I will practice and plan but continue to have fun along the way and not be overly concerned but will try to be ready if it does go SHTF.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:13 pm

Flyer, you can thank Ike for many places to land but you pretty much need good weather as well. Normally records that get sealed are to keep nosy AHs from trying to make a buck, & to show some respect same goes for why they cover victims & even vehicles, if you have seen enough death you don't welcome seeing more. If they allowed people to look they would be facing law suits for not preventing mental anguish.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:06 pm

samhill wrote:Once again Spinmaster Jpete, are you quite sure you don't have a reading comp. problem or do you just spin things for fun? I clearly talked about what I would do if I were that distrusting, I would have been long gone. As for the Gov. killing someone that they had reason to they could do it, simple as that. I never said I agree with or promote it I just very simply said they could to anyone no matter how big, bad & prepared. If they wanted to, if they actually did then there would be a lot more people no longer here, think about that & spin as you wish.


OK, maybe I went a little far with that.

But you freely admit that the government would kill a US citizen without compunction but you can't believe it would stage an event to further its agenda?

Seems a bit incongruous to me.
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Re: Report of Sandy Hook Records Being Sealed

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:25 pm

I think they very well could stage events such as this. I guess personally I would just hate to believe they would do it. If it ever came out that it was staged or faked and people responsible were not punished for treason. I think it would very much change me and a lot of others. For now I just want to believe in this country no matter who is in charge. I would like to think we would stop things before they get to far. I think Lady Liberty has a few cards left.
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