Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?

Re: Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:33 am

Nobody777 wrote:I keep hoping to read some good logic on here and most everyone just keeps saying that people are silly to believe that an electric heater can save you money because it's electric and was in an ad on TV. That's about as dumb as saying an electric hybrid car can't save you money because it's electric and featured in ads on TV.


Here's a fact, whether it's the Amish heater, Eden Pure ,standard baseboard or the cheapest electric heat you can find you're going to get about 3,412BTU/kWh.

If we compare the Edenpure:

http://edenpurestore.com/heater_questions#16

The EdenPURE Gen 3, SunTWIN Gen 3 and EdenPURE Signature Series heaters rate at approximately 5000 BTUs.


To this $29 ceramic space heater:

http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-754200-Cera ... 652&sr=1-1

The second control knob allows for selecting a 1500-watt high setting (5118 BTUs)



As you can see they both produce the same amount of BTU/h. Electric heat no matter what the source is always going to be exactly the same rate.



Indeed a wood stove is nice, however, not everyone has one or can have one... and wood stoves aren't necessarily cheap as wood costs money too.


Wood is less than half the cost of electric using some average costs.
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Re: Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:46 am

Just for perspective, I have a 1500W (5K BTU) electric heater in my bathroom, so we don't freeze our asses off getting out of the shower. My bathroom is 5' x 10' & it heats that well. I couldn't imagine trying to heat an entire room with it though. My electric bill would be insane! :shock:
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Re: Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:07 am

That's what they are useful for Smitty, if you have small area not beng heated by main heat or even an enclosed room. You drop the thermostat in the rest of the house and heat one room. If you have electric heat you will save money doing that because you are only heating one room. However If you have electric heat with thermostat in every room it's pointless because you can already do that.

When you move onto comparing it to other fuels you need to take a look at what the other fuels cost/btu. Electric heat is the most expensive heat you can have. If for example you have natural gas which is quite cheap now you might not save anything because the cost to heat that one room is actually going to be more since the electric is more per BTU.
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Re: Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:16 am

All my friends that switched to coal have electric heat in their homes! :lol: ;)

They got sick of the $500/month electric bills. :shock:
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I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: Firemanz84 On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:06 am

It's a miracle! It is going to drive down my heating cost and with less work and as a bonus it gives off that romantic glow...
If you can't trust the Amish, who can you trust? Maybe the people of the Peoples Republic of China that make the heater.

https://www.heatsurgesale.com/?MID=790281&gclid=CJvU45aWjq0CFUOo4AodBFaLmQ
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Re: I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:12 am

You see the fancy hat bands on the hats those ??? Amish??? are wearing. None of the many Amish around here would dare to wear them. Maybe Mennonite, not Amish! Anyhow, after reading the add--- :wacko: :rofl: :clap: toothy OK, I'm going to get at least 2. ;)
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Re: I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: CoalUserWannabe On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:14 am

Go ahead make someone's day
It puts out no more heat than the heater you buy on sale for 12 Dollars.
Or you can visit your local salvation army, and for 3 to 10 Dollars have a better bargain.
If you need that fake flame look , get a screen saver, they are free !
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Re: I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: Firemanz84 On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:16 am

Why stop at two? I'm going to buy one for every room of the house and one to put in my Mark III! You get a remote!

I think this http://nepacrossroads.com/about22910.html is all just smoke and mirrors and can't be true.
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Re: I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:21 am

I ordered two!!!

I won't be here much longer, the power company is shutting off the juice, I'm saving on coal but now I can't afford to pay the electric bill.
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Re: I'm giving up and buying one of these....

PostBy: Coalfire On: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:22 am

Just make sure you have a baro on them it will keep them more efficient toothy



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