Federal Emplyee's forced to pay/time cuts

The Federal departments deserving massive funding cuts (but not likely to get them) include (but are not limited to):

Homeland Security
TSA
Domestic Drones
FDA
ATF
Presidential vacations
War in Iraq
War in Afghanistan
Drone killings all over the middle east
US Military bases in half the worlds foreign countries
Fast and Furious
Foreign Aid

Rather than cutting a mere $85 billion, they could probably get rid of $$ trillions just with the above list.

I guess all I'm saying Jeff, is quit constantly biting the hand that feeds you--for the record--all of us pay taxes to help situations like yours. Yours is the difference between NEEDING & BUMMING-- You think you'll ever lose that resentment with your previous employer.

bet it would be different if it was your wallet

freetown fred wrote:I guess all I'm saying Jeff, is quit constantly biting the hand that feeds you--for the record--all of us pay taxes to help situations like yours. Yours is the difference between NEEDING & BUMMING-- You think you'll ever lose that resentment with your previous employer.

Don't know what you are talking about.

My employer made a perfectly reasonable and predictable move.

In fact, I predicted it after about 2 weeks of working there and the ten years after.

And I don't really "resent" my union who was a major factor in the move. They know who was right and who was wrong. And that is enough for me.

But you're right. I shouldn't bite the hand that feeds me. Maybe you'd be happier if I requested more? I'm pretty sure I'm eligible for quite a bit more. You'll be happy to suck up more taxes correct?

Poconoeagle wrote:bet it would be different if it was your wallet

It would! But austerity is coming to one and all (if not here already) whether we like it or not. The $85 billion cut is in fact austerity.

yeah.......so just throw between 12 and 20 grand a year out of your wallet and let me know.

I agree with the need to cut but not from the worker. they are crooked bastards who made this decision. Period!

Here is the 2011 budget in a simple graphic format from the CBO. I would think this stuff is public domain so no copyright problems posting it.


To take the numbers from this chart and make a real world analogy; imagine you had a take home income of $23,000 a year but spent $36,000 a year and already had a credit card balance of $101,000. You can see this is not a formula to get out of debt. The deficit is a problem but the debt is a bigger problem and this so called sequester is not even going to make a dent.

Call it schadenfreude, but if you work for the gubment and you just got hit with a 20% pay cut, and we all know this is temporary, I don’t care. The reason most people want to work for the gubment is job security, welcome to the real world.

Just wait until the proverbial *censored* really hits the fan, I can see it now, wailing and gnashing of teeth….where did I hear that before?

lsayre wrote:The Federal departments deserving massive funding cuts (but not likely to get them) include (but are not limited to):

Homeland Security
TSA
Domestic Drones
FDA
ATF
Presidential vacations
War in Iraq
War in Afghanistan
Drone killings all over the middle east
US Military bases in half the worlds foreign countries
Fast and Furious
Foreign Aid

Rather than cutting a mere $85 billion, they could probably get rid of $$ trillions just with the above list.

Good start lsayre and I found a few more that could be cut or closed.

U.S. AbilityOne Commission
Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
Administration on Developmental Disabilities
African Development Foundation
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID)
AmeriCorps
Appalachian Regional Commission
Broadcasting Board of Governors
Bureau of International Labor Affairs
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee
U.S. Commission of Fine Arts
U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
Office of Community Planning and Development
Congress—U.S. House of Representatives
Congress—U.S. Senate
Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Corporation for National and Community Service
Department of Education (ED)
Office of Elementary and Secondary Education (OESE)
Endangered Species Committee
English Language Acquisition Office
Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity (FHEO)
Federal Consulting Group
Federal Financing Bank
Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac)
Federal Housing Finance Agency
Federal Interagency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds
Federal Interagency Committee on Education
Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
Federal Reserve System
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board
Government National Mortgage Association
Healthy Homes and Lead Hazard Control Office
House Leadership Offices
House of Representatives Committees
Illinois and Michigan Canal National Heritage Corridor Commission
Indian Arts and Crafts Board
Interagency Council on Homelessness
Inter-American Foundation
James Madison Memorial Fellowship Foundation
Japan-United States Friendship Commission
John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
Morris K. Udall and Stewart L. Udall Foundation
National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform
National Endowment for the Arts
National Endowment for the Humanities
National Gallery of Art
Office of Community Planning and Development
Office of Disability Employment Policy
Office of Elementary and Secondary Education (OESE)
Office of Refugee Resettlement
Open World Leadership Center
President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports
Public and Indian Housing
Radio Free Asia
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL)
Rehabilitation Services Administration (Education Department)
Rural Business and Cooperative Programs
Stennis Center for Public Service
U.S. AbilityOne Commission
U.S. Botanic Garden
U.S. Commission of Fine Arts
Voice of America
White House
Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars

Of course there would be an excuse why we have to absolutely have each and every one and why even a reduction in the rate of growth, what the government euphemistically calls a spending cut, would be armageddon. Back to the original question. I do not have a problem with cutback hours and pay or layoffs for government workers. Do I like to see anyone have to take a cut in hours or be laid off, no, but the government employee is not a protected class of individual to be spared hardship at the expense of other citizens. I have over my working career been laid off and have had to work for less then 40/hrs a week. Every company I have worked for over the last 35+ years has had to make cutbacks in staffing levels and paid hours for those that where left to meet budget from time to time but one of the striking differences was we never received back pay for the days we didn't work and the company couldn't extort more money from the customers just to keep the budget growing. Going by the way the government like to fudge numbers and miss use the english language I have taken a pay cut the last 3 years in as much as my expenses have increased but my income has not. No raises and no COLA's for me.

Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board , U.S. Agency for International Development , Federal Interagency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds WTH is this stuff I dont need some stinkin' fed committee to tell me i dont like golden rod growing around my house and how about a US agency for US development (make sense...WTF) and how about leaving the thrift investment to the salvation army (i dont think they take our tax money....maybe they do LOL)

WTF is going around here.... to the streets i say!

Im convinced any of us would do better making proper cuts then any of these guys in DC, some of this stuff is just ridiculous "no-brainers"... what is the problem here... why are some of these ridiculous expenditures still going on ???

dcrane wrote:Im convinced any of us would do better making proper cuts then any of these guys in DC, some of this stuff is just ridiculous "no-brainers"... what is the problem here... why are some of these ridiculous expenditures still going on ???

Because Romney lost!

I think the drones should and will keep flying and killing. 5pts is not a deal breaker. Every family and entity in the US has slashed
more than that since 08, why shouldn't the gov? Whats the big deal? There is not one budget that 5pts can not be found. The dead lock in gov is a crime. Ron and Tip got it done in there day, what is up with this crew? Lazy? Stupid? Greedy? All?

Yet they keep getting paid with OUR money for doing that NOTHING--very sad situationThe only good news I see, is that a bunch of us older guys have a lot less time left to suffer through it then you young bucks