Need Chimney Experts opinion

Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:52 am

Hello,

My stone chimney was pointed last year and the crown cemented also.

The guy did an awesome job for us.

We used to have no stains on the top.

Since then the top of our chimney has rust stains down the sides.

Can anybody tell me what you think these could be caused by?

I know the liner is good or at least was 8 months ago.

Thanks!
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: Wiz On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:08 am

Rain caps
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:20 am

Ditto...
You have some steel in those caps...
It rusts...
now staining the stonework...
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:30 am

I think that fly ash is accumulating on the rain caps and mixing with moisture. This combination creates sulfuric acid that is acting as a catalyst to produce rust. Then the rust is being washed onto the chimney when it rains. I dunno. I'm just guessing.
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:50 am

Also, do you burn any wood in either of those flues??? creosote on those caps will do that--at least MY creosote does--PLUS--that wire (keep the critters out crap) rusts like a bastard
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:56 am

freetown fred wrote:Also, do you burn any wood in either of those flues??? creosote on those caps will do that--at least MY creosote does--PLUS--that wire (keep the critters out crap) rusts like a bastard


Bingo. I had the same issue, and it didn't take much wood to do it.
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:59 am

Just wondering what kind of liner it is you mentioned was good about 8 months ago? Terra cotta or a SS insert?
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: buffalo bob On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:09 am

freetown fred wrote:Also, do you burn any wood in either of those flues??? creosote on those caps will do that--at least MY creosote does--PLUS--that wire (keep the critters out crap) rusts like a bastard

i agree with f fred i have the same problem here rust stains...remedy...take those caps off
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:15 am

Get rid of the metal caps and put a stone witch catcher up there, somethin fitting of that nice chimney. Too maybe somethig copper?
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:18 am

Now----if you want to talk copper--get hold of FORUM member "oliver power" ;)
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:22 am

Thanks everyone.

I have 5" stainless steel liner.....as of 8 months ago chimney sweep siad it looked very good.

I guess I'll replace the caps after I shut down the coal stove.

Could it be anything else causing the stains?

thanks!
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: Den034071 On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:32 am

Im a mason 41 years .Cap is probably not stainless thats causing rust .Den034071 jack
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Red Ash Coal is laden w/ iron...some coals much more iron than others. Whatever goes in...must come out somewhere.

So sorry to hear you have a SS liner. :(
Is it possible to have it removed?
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:54 pm

arggg, another consumer sold on a $2k stainless liner :cry: anyways... that Chimney is fantastic and deserves a stone cap or pure copper cap. Were those same caps present before the work you had done? if not then its most likely the caps, if those were the same caps then the person working up their used a flange or something of poor material (steel, iron, galv, etc.) in doing whatever he did (Im sure he built up cement to shed rain water and sometimes they use drip flanges, etc. in doing this. When you do replace the cap try to put some distance between the bottom of the cap and the top of the flu (10" +).

just to show you the simplicity of a stone cap here is a photo... There are a lot of folks here who give their right arm for a chimney like you have (me included!) and this is the proper way to cap it ;)
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Re: Need Chimney Experts opinion

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:20 pm

I can guarantee it will be cheaper to build that stone cap ...

Now, does anyone know if it's better to have the 2 open ends facing INTO the prevailing wind direction, or perpendicular to it? Or am I not seeing the other 2 ends being open? :gee:
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