Picked up another Warm Morning

Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: LDPosse On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:56 pm

Just what I needed... Another stove, lol

I saw this one on Craigslist, the firebrick are in excellent shape. The stove will need a little tlc but seems to be in pretty good shape otherwise. I will get more pics soon, I've been busy remodeling my kitchen and haven't had much time to fiddle with coal stuff :(

What I'm wanting to know, is which model of stove is this? I don't see a tag anywhere on the stove that says which model it is.

Thanks!
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:16 pm

Looks like an enamel coat on the skin which is nice.

The picture gives dimensions of the three sizes.
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Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: LDPosse On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:41 pm

How do you regulate the fire with these stoves? Opening the little door for the shaker grate handle? From reading the manual, it almost sounds like they want you to have an MPD and a baro, using the MPD to control the fire. That is, if Im understanding it right.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

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Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:36 pm

LDposse , it is the same design as my 414a which is a 40lbs model. They had quite a few models but they generally all worked the same. They are amazing stoves and work wonders. I have been heating for two winters now with mine. There should be the model number on the door . If not measure the width and height and I can tell you which one you have or you can look at those brochures for the deminsions. There was a 40lbs, 60lbs, and a 100lbs that I know of that all pretty much looked and worked the same. They function as any other coal stove with the bottom adjustment controlling you air under the fire and the top controlling your over fire. The stove was designed to burn bituminous very well and once you understand it it burns bit very well! It always is an amazing little stove when it comes to burning anthracite. You won't need to do much with the top door when burning anthracite but the top will be important when burning bit or wood. Let me know if you have any more questions about the stove and I can try and help you out. Btw they still sell new grates for these.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: LDPosse On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:11 pm

I haven't dealt with a stove using an oval stovepipe connection before. Is this a standard item, or are these "warm morning-specific" adapters?
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:54 pm

LDPosse wrote:I haven't dealt with a stove using an oval stovepipe connection before. Is this a standard item, or are these "warm morning-specific" adapters?


Just buy standard 6" round stove pipe and squish one end. I might make a sand mold for the WM soon and add it as a product for my new business . Not that I expect to get a huge turn around but it would be nice to return a favour to the community. We have a foundry right down the road and I could use some inventory for my new company. I will keep you posted.


Here is some links to my WM threads and some others
This is the first thread I had on Nepa . Lots of good info on the WM
New to the coal world and need a little direction

WV Bit vs. PA Blaschak Anthracite in a WM stove

The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:30 pm

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Don't worry about a baro. It's not needed. Just use a MPD. Like I have done here. Works great!
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: buck24 On: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:37 pm

The oval collar on the stove is a 7" oval to a 6" round. Lots of the older stoves used that size. Check some of your local hardware stores which carry stovepipe and stove supplies. I burned the 523-R for many years before I got the Buck Model 24. In the Warm Morning manual they call it a 7" to 6" reducing joint.
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Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: LDPosse On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:37 pm

I measured the stove, it's the big boy, lol, the 523. Does anyone know is this stove would put out anywhere near the heat that my DS Circulator 1500 does? The DS is 96k btu.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: buck24 On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:32 pm

The 523 holds 100# of coal and can put out some nice heat. I would say the DS stoves are a tighter stove. When I burned the WM 523 I would fill her up to about an inch below the top firebrick and the blue flames would come up through the corner flues burning off the gases. You want to keep those corner flues open from ash build up.If they start to block up you can run a wire from the top down to keep them clear. The Warm Morning 523 was a nice dependable stove for me. I bought it brand new and got 29 years out of it. Hope I could get that many years out of the Buck Model 24. :D
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: New Buck Corp. / MODEL 24 COAL
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Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: coalturkey On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:37 pm

I have a couple of the 523's and love them. I have not burned much bit coal in them instead burning anthrasite. I don't think the corner flues are really important when you burn anthracite so don't worry if they start to fall apart and plug. I run one of these stoves with no corner flues and it does fine. My best time to date is 72 hours shut down tight and enough coal to restart. Pretty amazing for a stove I bought for $20 at a farm auction.
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Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: coalturkey On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:42 pm

Also, I would recomend that you use a barometric damper after the MPD. The stove will run longer as the high draft of a windy day won't suck so hard on the fire.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 400
Baseburners & Antiques: Oakland #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: blaschek nut
Other Heating: Home Comfort range
Stove/Furnace Make: Oakland #6 Base Heater
Stove/Furnace Model: Home Comfort range

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: LDPosse On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:44 pm

coalturkey wrote:I have a couple of the 523's and love them. I have not burned much bit coal in them instead burning anthrasite. I don't think the corner flues are really important when you burn anthracite so don't worry if they start to fall apart and plug. I run one of these stoves with no corner flues and it does fine. My best time to date is 72 hours shut down tight and enough coal to restart. Pretty amazing for a stove I bought for $20 at a farm auction.


How much space are you heating with the 523s?
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: coalturkey On: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:28 pm

One of them is in an old barn of a house we are presently living in and there could be a house fire in half of it and the other half would be cold. It runs at 450 outside temp and warms the room well. The other is at a small (1500) house we are working on and that heats quite well. The second one has new windows and a lot of insulation but half is stone with the old windows. In that we are working on it and don't stay there, I don't push it too hard. If I did and all the inside had a chance to get warm, it would be sufficient. Hope that helps. I plan to have a range in the kitchen and that should even things out well. The cabinet style 400 warm morning with the fan is probably a better heater with the same 100 lb capacity. Hope that helps.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Home Comfort range

Re: Picked up another Warm Morning

PostBy: jjs777_fzr On: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:06 am

LDPosse wrote:I haven't dealt with a stove using an oval stovepipe connection before. Is this a standard item, or are these "warm morning-specific" adapters?

Nice stoves. I've seen these listed in the goto book Coal Comfort.
Appears to boast a reversible flu pipe collar - to change from horizontal exit to veritical.

I can't recall if this was already mentioned somewhere - but Larry sells a oval to round adapter. May want to research whether that would fit your application. Link pasted below:

http://chubbystove.com/gallery2.htm
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