Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: dlj On: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:11 pm

LsFarm wrote:I can't remember from the text, did you allow for the shrinkage of the iron when it cools?? I think it's about 8%.. your iron foundry can tell you for sure.
Your pattern needs to be slightly larger than the final product to be cast from it.
Greg L


Typically 1/8" per foot for cast iron.

Wanna Bee wrote:It has been mentioned and I have done alot of reading in regards to shrinkage.
I'm more worried about thermal expansion at this point. A tight fitting FP in the stove might expand faster than the stove around it. You know what happens next.

Metal Percentage
Aluminium 6.6
Copper 4.9
Magnesium 4.0 or 4.2
Zinc 3.7 or 6.5
Low carbon steel 2.5–3.0
High carbon steel 4.0
White cast iron 4.0–5.5
Gray cast iron −2.5–1.6
Ductile cast iron −4.5–2.7


What are you listing above? I don't understand what that list is about....

dj
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:00 pm

It is a list of shrinkage per alloy.
Everytime I got the format correct something fishy would happen. (yep, just looked at the format in the other post there are still spaces that didn't show up in the actual post)

1/8" per foot is just over 1%. I don't think there will be any issues
8% would be huge
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:30 am

Thanks for the info, and yes I agree, 8% wouid be huge,, that woud be, about 1" in 12",, I should have done some math before I posted, but I had mittens and socks on.. :lol:
I see from your list of shrinkage percentages that aluminum is pretty high, maybe that's what stuck in my mind. I have a few parts recast for my old cars every year or two, and we often use aluminum. Not much cast iron..

Greg L
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:32 pm

Got most of my parts back from the blaster.
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I got to this point and realized that I didn't get everything back from the blaster. The two very large side pieces are missing. How'd I miss that?
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Hope to be able to get the missing parts back tomorrow so I can continue applying stove polish.

I'm on the schedule to have the plated parts back in two weeks. Once I have them final assembly will begin.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:46 pm

You're gainin on her WB---lookin real nice :)
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:48 pm

Got the missing peices back from the blaster today. Spent the better part of the day applying a liberal coat of stove black to everything. I'm coating ALL of the parts on all sides. I know most of the stuff on the inside will burn off on the first firing. But...she'll look like new until then.
Here are the pictures
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I'm going to wait for the Nickel to come back before going Hog wild on the reassembly. Hopefully the fire pot will be ready about the same time as the nickel :roll:
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:25 am

I think stove polish looks so much better than paint. I know it's a pain to rub it on all of those parts, but; now you have an easily maintainable finish. When it needs to be touched up a little buffing and a small dab of polish is all it takes. Not to mention that a polished finished is authentic also.

Just remember, when you light it up for the first time; open all the windows and have a fan on somewhere.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:47 pm

Coating everything hasn't been that bad. I set up in front of the TV in the air conditioning and do a little at a time. Best idea yet has been to take this project inside for the final assembly. It must be 100 degrees in the shop.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:30 pm

I put up this picture just to give you and anybody else who needs it some motivation. My friend Daniel just finished this base burner. This is going to be heating his store starting this fall. It was a basket case when he started on it. He has never used coal before. He is about to cross the threshold never to return.
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PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:54 pm

Just WOW, what is that thing - gorgeous.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:56 pm

Looking at Daniel you better pray it works well.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Vangellis On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:27 pm

franco b wrote:Looking at Daniel you better pray it works well.



Good one :lol:



Kevin
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:18 am

coalnewbie wrote:Just WOW, what is that thing - gorgeous.

Agreed!

wsherrick wrote:I put up this picture just to give you and anybody else who needs it some motivation. My friend Daniel just finished this base burner. This is going to be heating his store starting this fall. It was a basket case when he started on it. He has never used coal before. He is about to cross the threshold never to return.

That thing is amazing.
I'm not lacking motivation. I'm lacking my nickel plated parts. On schedule to have them on the 27th. When I have the base I will start sealing and assembling :ugeek:
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:44 am

coalnewbie wrote:Just WOW, what is that thing - gorgeous.


It is a Radiant Stewart No. 34 from the late 1890's. It is complete with its magazine and all the options.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:05 am

wow... wannabee's stove is going to be better than new when he is done! and that Stewart is like fine art (I would not want to fire up these beauties after a restoration like that :cry: )
Your friend Dan looks like one of those dudes when we were younger that you never want to mess with :eek2:
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