Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:27 pm

dcrane wrote:holy cow, that's some great work bro! I knew after seeing your shop with lathe's and miller crickets and every tool known to man that you were going to make this thing shine!
In all seriousness can you tell me how you went about getting that nickel re-plated? did you sand blast everything yourself first (is that required), how much did it cost exactly, etc,etc... (I can handle the assembly/disassembly/etc but the nickel re-plating has me very scared because I cannot afford $1,000 just for that alone :cry:


DON'T BLAST ANYThING!!!
Plated parts should be as smooth and perfect as you can get them before plating. Remember...it's just plating. A very thin bonding of shiny stuff via electrolysis . Any imperfections will show up just like imperfections in/ under paint.

The way I understand it is... They actually reverse the polarity on the equipment to remove the existing finishes. It comes off the same way it went on. Then it goes through a rinse/neutralization process, Inspection, repair, then a five step plating followed by a quick polish.

Honest engine, the stuff in that photo is what a thousand dollars got me and from what i gather it was a damn good deal. I also have a good size investment in the stove, not going forward with the plating wasn't an option.

Also sorry to hear that your not in the position to drop a grand, things change and maybe sooner than later. 8-)
Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: dcrane On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 pm

wsherrick wrote:
Wanna Bee wrote:Only problem with trying to explain this stuff to the casual observer is...

By time you get to extended flue path, their eyes have glassed over and they have pictures of unicorns dancing in their heads :bag:

They're still thinking OMG you have to shovel coal into that thing. I didn't know they still made that stuff.


That's why I thought it would be nice to make some videos about these things. Now after 100,000 views and a jammed inbox, I found out that a lot of people seem to be fascinated and interested. Some times I think to myself, (hand to forehead) "What have I done?!"


You created a MONSTER William and its going to take over the country :taz: I suggest if anyone wants an antique baseburner they buy it soon because the prices are going to soar thanks to Wil :clap:

Look at this bargain of the CENTURY!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Regal-Universal ... true&rt=nc
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:45 pm

dcrane wrote:
wsherrick wrote:
Wanna Bee wrote:Only problem with trying to explain this stuff to the casual observer is...

By time you get to extended flue path, their eyes have glassed over and they have pictures of unicorns dancing in their heads :bag:

They're still thinking OMG you have to shovel coal into that thing. I didn't know they still made that stuff.


That's why I thought it would be nice to make some videos about these things. Now after 100,000 views and a jammed inbox, I found out that a lot of people seem to be fascinated and interested. Some times I think to myself, (hand to forehead) "What have I done?!"


You created a MONSTER William and its going to take over the country :taz: I suggest if anyone wants an antique baseburner they buy it soon because the prices are going to soar thanks to Wil :clap:

Look at this bargain of the CENTURY!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Regal-Universal ... true&rt=nc


Shame it's incomplete.
Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:10 pm

Another trip to the store is needed to get some more fasteners. I got going on the ash pan instead. It is being constructed from 1/8" aluminium. I have no doubt that it is safe to use and will never see enough heat to cause it any damage.

I also needed to make a press brake to do the bending.

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The corners will get the fold and rivet treatment, same as the original. Not sure what I'm doing for handles yet.
Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Real nice WB--good old American ingenuity :D
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:03 am

dcrane wrote:
wsherrick wrote:
Wanna Bee wrote:Only problem with trying to explain this stuff to the casual observer is...

By time you get to extended flue path, their eyes have glassed over and they have pictures of unicorns dancing in their heads :bag:

They're still thinking OMG you have to shovel coal into that thing. I didn't know they still made that stuff.


That's why I thought it would be nice to make some videos about these things. Now after 100,000 views and a jammed inbox, I found out that a lot of people seem to be fascinated and interested. Some times I think to myself, (hand to forehead) "What have I done?!"


You created a MONSTER William and its going to take over the country :taz: I suggest if anyone wants an antique baseburner they buy it soon because the prices are going to soar thanks to Wil :clap:

Look at this bargain of the CENTURY!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Regal-Universal ... true&rt=nc



The real point of it all was to let people know these things exist so as many of them that still can be saved, possibly will be saved. To much of our hard won knowledge, craft and just plain brilliance has been thrown in the dump or torn down to make a parking lot.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:11 pm

And I think that apply to a lot of things, not only stoves.
Once American car company were the world wide No.1, yes they got some poor periods but since a few years they can match most wing-wong imported vehicules...
We must come back to the No.1 time and be proud of what have an American name on it, like the Ford products as an example. That way, the next générations will also be proud of our behaviors .
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:21 pm

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Had a local foundry cast me two new fire pots from the pattern I created. I was charged $80 each for the castings.

And to answer the how much shrinkage, It was negligible. Overall rim (15") diameter lost under 1/8" . Overall height isn't even measurable.

Also had a delivery from Ohio, best thing is... It came in a caulk tube.

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Sure hope this is the stuff William recommends. William?
Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: dlj On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:50 pm

Wanna Bee - Awesome! Yeap, sounds like about 1/8" per foot shrink... Great price on the parts, and they look good! Congrats!

dj
dlj
 
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Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:54 pm

Sorry, I didn't see this sooner. Yes, the hearthstone is the good stuff.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:36 pm

Well I'm back at it again.

After dragging the monster into my 1000sq. Ft. House and seeing the enormity of it, my sails were slightly toppled. It will fit on my existing hearth with room to spare. That's all that matters right :D My only saving grace is I have been using my central circulating fan to move air downstairs witch doubles the heating requirements of my home. This makes having an oversized stove much more palatable.

Isn't overkill underrated ? :D

It's now time to seal this beast up and set a fire inside.
First was to disassemble my mock up and get this thing under way.
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I started with trying to apply the Hearthstone brand stove cement to no avail. It wouldn't extrude thru the caulk tube that it was packaged in. I made an attempt to slop it on but with as many areas that I needed to seal this wasn't going to happen.

I made one mistake when taking the beast apart...I cut four very hard to source bolts. No worries there, I just needed to make new ones. :P
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After a trip to the hardware store I ended up with Rutland brand stove cement and got to work. Wetting all of the adjoining surfaces and applying a large bead of sealant to them. I paid very special attention to the ash pan area. If I intend on having complete control of combustion I need all of these areas to be as airtight as possible.

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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:46 pm

At this point the base of the base burner is installed. The entire ash pit is also sealed and ready for action.Image
A keen eye will notice the turn inside of the base. The hole we are looking through is the clean out.
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The stove is now married to its base for the final time. It's also the first time that the grates have been installed since tear down.
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Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:50 pm

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Fist time the new fire pot has ever met his new buddy.
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Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:59 pm

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I should be able to have this monster ready to fire soon. The fresh mica is on it way. My beautiful wife will be away on business mid January. That should give me a chance to do the swap.

Only thing is...I'm still in the first match. I don't want to give that up. Is there anyway you boys will give me a mulligan?
Wanna Bee
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:48 pm

When it comes to furnace cement, my motto is; more is better. So what if it makes a mess. I want to be absolutely sure that there no leaks, anywhere. It really bites when after you've been so careful and neat with the cement, you have thin spot which will make a leak or have leak. The stuff wipes off. Have plenty of rags and paper towels.
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I am very excited that you are almost done. I can't wait to see a fire in it and hear about how it runs. All the work and money you put in it will begin returning to you with interest as soon as you light it up.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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