Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: franco b On: Fri May 17, 2013 12:02 am

wsherrick wrote:According to the Catalog page, the 14 inch model was $51 bucks. That was quite expensive in the early 1890's when this stove was made.

A skilled man probably made about $2 per day so it took 25 days pay to buy the stove.

A skilled man making 200 a day today would have to spend $5,000 or 25 days pay for the same stove if it were available. So it was never cheap.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri May 17, 2013 9:28 am

wsherrick wrote:Often times the brass was nickel plated, sometimes not. It's a matter of your personal taste.

According to the Catalog page, the 14 inch model was $51 bucks. That was quite expensive in the early 1890's when this stove was made.


Just judging from the inside showing so much green corroision, I'm going to say that it was polished Brass.


I was able to get a coat of filler on the inside of the FP.

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While that was drying I took the Finial outside and waved a propane torch over the surface. It instantly smoked the paint off without putting alot of heat into the base metal. Quick scrubb and the surface started looking rusty, real rusty.

Now I'm thinking UT OH! "William was right this thing is plated" :mad: BUT...

It's not plated, the entire thing is solid brass and will polish up fantastic.

So I took it completely apart and stuck it in my vibrating polishing machine.
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AKA brass tumbler for reloading.
After a few hours in corn cob media the brass is starting to look like new. Putting it back together now... shouldn't pose any problems. I might need to do a little drilling and taping for some teeny tiny srcews but getting it polished while it was in one peice wasn't going to happen.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri May 17, 2013 7:42 pm

Us the Lysol toilet bowl cleaner and some 0000 steel wool, you won't believe how easy it cleans up the brass. This is how I found out about using Lysol or 'the Works' bowl cleaners.. cleaning antique brass andirons, display items, brass candle sticks etc..

The brass will have a bit of a 'red' color, that comes right off in the reloading brass tumbler, or with some Wendol or SemiChrome polish.

Greg L

Awwome work on the pattern for the firepot..

GL
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat May 18, 2013 8:49 pm

Started today with spraying the inside of the FP with some paint. This served as a guide coat for my sanding to make sure that everything was flat.
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Here it is after blocking out the inside. If you look at the center you can still see a little bit of the black paint, it isn't enough to matter though.
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This one fits in the opening. I think after the teeth are cut, there shouldn't be any problems getting it in.
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Corner where it gets hung up.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat May 18, 2013 8:54 pm

Guess what this is for?
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From here I'm just going to let the pictures do the talking.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat May 18, 2013 8:56 pm

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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat May 18, 2013 9:04 pm

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At this point I need to do some touch up on the outside from damage caused by my clamp.
The rim needs to be finished ( I wasn't sure how I would clamp it) so I left it until last.
Need to block out the outside
Debur and radius all of the teeth
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Should be able to finish up in two or three more hours. :)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat May 18, 2013 10:14 pm

I was wondering how you were going to index the slot cutting.. again,, NICE work..

are you going to cut notches in the rim of the new firepot so it will fit through the opening??
In the photo it looks like maybe the radius of the door opening is different on the bottom??
It might, just might go in upside down, then be able to be flipped right side up inside the stove?? Maybe?? :shock:

I know on both my base heaters, the front of the stove has to be disassembled to remove the firepot.. :(

Greg L
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat May 18, 2013 11:02 pm

According to the brochure that Nortcan posted, the FP should be removable, without taking anything apart. I think it might fit once I trim the rim to size, it's only catching by a hair. The teeth are going to help with adding some space too. The original didn't have any flats on it to aid in getting it in the door. Only thing was/is an indexing notch that I will not be putting in the pattern. I will file a notch in the new FP with a file once cast. I think it's to small of a detail to try getting in the casting, and have it come out correct.

The idea of installing it upside down has been mentioned but I don't think that it will help. From what I remember flipping it once inside is impossible.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Grander Stove Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Royal Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun May 19, 2013 5:51 am

Thats great stuff on the machining, I was thinking a router table with a round top spiral cutter but you clearly have some Jig making experience (whats your background? job?) you seem to have a lot of equipment and tools for a typical happy homeowner :shock: You seriously have to archive that mold and have your name placed on it (its almost as beuatiful as your stove! :shock: )
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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun May 19, 2013 9:57 am

Very nice job on the fire pot mold.
And yes, the fire pot should come out of the stove without removing a single part, that is a ""plus"" for these Bride stoves. The fire pot comes out from my Golden Bride that way, very pleasant to be able to remove it so easily :idea: Mine has a different top, more square to fit the inner square support.
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PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun May 19, 2013 10:24 am

the reason for the flats are for egress... when indexed the support is irrelevant regarding the flats... ;) :?:
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PostBy: nortcan On: Sun May 19, 2013 2:52 pm

oops sorry
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun May 19, 2013 2:54 pm

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Re: Found it !! My 'Royal Bride' restoration thread

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon May 20, 2013 8:46 pm

I got out the elbow grease, mixed that with Gregs tb cleaner and applied that to the finial. After getting the parts "clean" I buffed them by hand with an ammonia based brass polish that I purchased at Giant food market. Turned out pretty good. I think putting them to a wheel will really set it off.
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She has come a long way from the nasty gold paint.
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