Machinist show yourselves !

Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:36 pm

Smokeyja wrote:I have concern though. On the chart it shows that a 2hp motor used as a converter will allow a full amp load of 6.8 .
The head motor I'm putting on will take 3.7amps and running the cross feed motor that runs 1.3amps that would bring me to a max draw of 5amps while just running the mill. So if I where to put an old compressor or any other machine that leaves me with only 1.8amps to draw on 3 phase if that. Am I reading into this right? I don't mind paying more . I just didn't know much about them but that's what he had said I needed and said I could run my shop on that. I'm thinking maybe I should step up to a 5hp . What are some of y'all's opinions?



I would do the 5 hp minimum. Your motors will be happier.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Ed.A On: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:09 am

Flyer5 wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:I have concern though. On the chart it shows that a 2hp motor used as a converter will allow a full amp load of 6.8 .
The head motor I'm putting on will take 3.7amps and running the cross feed motor that runs 1.3amps that would bring me to a max draw of 5amps while just running the mill. So if I where to put an old compressor or any other machine that leaves me with only 1.8amps to draw on 3 phase if that. Am I reading into this right? I don't mind paying more . I just didn't know much about them but that's what he had said I needed and said I could run my shop on that. I'm thinking maybe I should step up to a 5hp . What are some of y'all's opinions?



I would do the 5 hp minimum. Your motors will be happier.


Go Big, that way you never have to worry when you come across another piece of equipment you want but no power to run it, take it from someone who has been there done that. Be carefull though, a lot of manufacturers under rate their load capacity that's why it usually best to way bigger.

I'm glad you went Rotary becuase Phase-O-matic type Static Converters will damage your motors over time.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:11 am

Thanks guys! I made the call this morning for a 5hp instead . That gives me 15.2 amps to draw . He said if I ever need to upgrade he will apply what I paid for the 5hp to a bigger system. I'm also having the power company come out to give me prices on running a dedicated line and meter .
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:41 pm

So now that I have the power straight , I need to wait for Dempsey's to get in a very old, large Air compressor! Next will be the large steel building in the field behind the garage and then a vehicle lift !!!
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:49 am

Sounds like you're well on your way...congrats.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:21 am

The Jolly Green Giants Drill Doctor :lol:
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:28 am

Ed.A wrote:Sounds like you're well on your way...congrats.


Thank you! I still have a ways to go though!

dcrane wrote:The Jolly Green Giants Drill Doctor :lol:
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Haha I know right ! It's a 1hp motor . But I can't find any information about it? I have no idea how to use the attachments. I will try to get close ups and maybe some of you have seen it before. It's made by Gallmeyer & Livingston and they were called "grand rapid grinders" and was sold by the vandyck co. Which was a large machinery sales co.

Any info y'all can find would be much appreciated. I have manuals for the other stuff.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:06 am

Ok there is a guy that has me second guessing the motor rating of 1hp . Here are some photos. And from them can you tell me what type of motor it is and the HP?

I have tried figuring formulas using rpms , voltage and amps but every formula I am seeing wants an efficiency rating.

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Here is some closer photos of the grinder . Someone is bound to know what this stuff does. This photo look like it might be a grinding wheel dresser ?
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:17 am

Smokeyja wrote:Ok there is a guy that has me second guessing the motor rating of 1hp . Here are some photos. And from them can you tell me what type of motor it is and the HP?

I have tried figuring formulas using rpms , voltage and amps but every formula I am seeing wants an efficiency rating.




If I were to wild ass guess that motor is in the low to mid 70% efficiency area. If this helps. The newer motors get up to around 92% .
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:19 am

One hp of electrical power is 746 watts, take your amp rating times your voltage that will give you the wattage the motor uses to run now devide that number by 746 that should give you the hp of the motor. Its been a few years sense learned power formulas so that might be all wrong.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Ed.A On: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:55 pm

I wouldn't fret to much over it, you got's a big enough Rotary to handle it. No worries over the pedestal grinder.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:21 am

3 Phase calculations get multiplied by 1.732...3 Phase has that advantage over 1 Phase. :)
There are good online calculators out there.
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:56 pm

So I want to wire a cord on the grinder but I don't want to put a Chinese product on the end for a plug. Any suggestions on finding an American made plug ? Any good sites to buy electrical supplies?

Also I have 4 wires coming out of the box. L1 l2 l3 and a ground . Which type of plug would match this the best?
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:18 am

Hubble L15-20P Twist-Lock
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Re: Machinist show yourselves !

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:14 am

McGiever wrote:Hubble L15-20P Twist-Lock



That's what they sell at lowes and made in china.
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