Ok guys, I think your hammering me...which is bullsh*t. I did update and said that I got a Herald Oak as I couldn't find a Crawford 40. It was the stove my parents had and I was going to continue to look for one as I'd need two stoves to heat this big old house. I made mention that my dad, who is getting older, was going to be staying at the house and I wanted the stove for him. Yes I did leave the forum for a while. I did, before I left, mention that I got the Herald and did get some great advice from you guys on here, I've thanked everyone, and still continue to thank everyone for their generosity. I did find a Crawford from someone who would be able to restore it this year, and it's almost done, but had some personal family issues that took center stage. My wife shortly after we got our Herald was diagnosed with cancer. It has spread considerably and with 4, 8, 12 year old kids at the time, I didn't know which way was up. I never intended to be a short term member, as I really enjoy interacting with all of you. I travel a lot for a living, had to change that job and care for my wife, be a dad and mom to young kids who don't understand why we don't do more things and wonder why mom doesn't want to do anything anymore. I promise any parent on here that has multiple kids, basketball, football, track, dance, the list seemed to go on forever, there wasn't any time in the day and I completely zoned out. I'm a great fisherman and really enjoy that, I didn't use my boat, quit fishing tourneys, quit going to car shows, all we did was sit at home and I just tried to be everything to everyone. I have checked my PM's from time to time, and never saw a message about it, and still don't have any message regarding a stove. Thanks, greatly, for finding one, but I did have my hands full, still have my hands full, and use this site to gather excellent information from some of the smartest coal burning gentlemen around. Your help has made a tough time easier. We would sit in front of it and watch tv or listen to jazz, blues was her favorite but she wouldn't listen to it as she thought she had enough blues. I will have a Crawford 40 and won't have a problem asking questions about it...if that bothers you, don't reply, but the cheap shots, are not classy, I'd expect that from other sites, not this one. Again, thanks in advance, for help most of you have given, and William, I never meant to blow you off...I was just really busy...I still have my hands full...just better at time management.