Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:34 pm

I don't know if you remember the fellow that popped up here some months ago looking for a Crawford No 40 base heater. If so, then you will remember that I found one for him. Well, like so many fly by nighters on the Forum, he never got back to me.
Well my friend Jimmy Belvin down in Texas, has a stove restoration business and he does superior work. He had this Crawford. Since the dude that wanted it in the first place didn't show back up. I just bought the stove for myself.
I originally wanted a Crawford for my living room. Now I've got one. The little Glenwood No 9 is going to be lent to some freezing friends of mine who are going broke spending money on oil. The Crawford is the exact same type of stove as the Our Glenwood Base Heaters. This Crawford is a little bit heftier though.
It is now in the process of being restored. As of my last communication with JImmy, the new barrel is getting rolled and the trim is being plated as we speak. I will have the stove by late Spring.
Here are pictures of it before and in its present state.
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Crawford 40 Base Heater.
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Crawford fire pot complete with original fire bricks.
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Close up of loading door, Crawford 40
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Crawford in pieces before restoration.
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:01 pm

Here are a couple of examples of Jimmy's finished work. He goes to painstaking lengths to insure a suburb result on the stoves he restores.
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Jimmy will make the stove a different color if you want it.
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Here is a large Estate Oak he recently restored. The nickel is done with the period luster.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: nortcan On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:28 pm

Bad thing about the ""forum friend"" leaving you that way, But like you said, many come to the forum, get all what they ""want"" and good by. Not even enough gratitude to come back and tell us some results about the related subject.
Anyway that gives you the chance to have a real friend being warm next Winter and as a ""bonus"", you will have a nice stove for the next video.
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:31 pm

Congratulations. With your love of these old stoves you need another from time to time. Something to take you back to the days when steam was king. What a fine example that stove is with the original bricks.
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:57 pm

gratz on the new stove!

I thought your Glenwood was in your basement (like your vids show?), do you have 2 Glenwoods?

Whats the difference between your Glenwood #9 vs. the "Our Glenwoods" & Crawfords?

I assume this restoration will include replacing every nut and bolt (if so... do they get replaced with stainless nuts & bolts or some kind of historically correct nuts & bolts?)

why are you having a new barrel made (is this one rusted out)?

My firebrick has groves on the inside (is that correct)?

and finally.... how much are you paying for this beauty all restored? :shock:
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:08 pm

Nice stove Wiliam. I suspect that the guy looking for a Crawford #40, bought that one that showd up on his thread from a single, one-time poster, in Northern NJ.

Now about this donating of Base Burners,, I didn't know you were a base heater/burner philanthropic organization. so where do I sign up to be on the list for the next donated or loaned base heater?? :shock: :D

Seriously, that's very nice of you to help out your friends.

Greg L.
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:40 pm

dcrane wrote:gratz on the new stove!

I thought your Glenwood was in your basement (like your vids show?), do you have 2 Glenwoods?

Whats the difference between your Glenwood #9 vs. the "Our Glenwoods" & Crawfords?

I assume this restoration will include replacing every nut and bolt (if so... do they get replaced with stainless nuts & bolts or some kind of historically correct nuts & bolts?)

why are you having a new barrel made (is this one rusted out)?

My firebrick has groves on the inside (is that correct)?

and finally.... how much are you paying for this beauty all restored? :shock:


Yes, I have two Glenwoods. The Glenwood No 9 IS an Our Glenwood model. If you looked at it. I put a link all about it on your Glenwood no 111 thread. They are the same exact design except mine is the older original series of Our Glenwoods.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: dlj On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:02 pm

William,

I can't wait to hear how you like the Crawford compared to the Glenwood. Nice looking stove. I guess I'm one of the few left that just sticks to the one stove... Heck I've had it since I was a kids so why change now???

dj
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:27 pm

dlj wrote:William,

I can't wait to hear how you like the Crawford compared to the Glenwood. Nice looking stove. I guess I'm one of the few left that just sticks to the one stove... Heck I've had it since I was a kids so why change now???

dj


Don't worry dj. The Glenwood No 6 in my house, like yours; will always be the queen of the house. That is not going anywhere.
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: dlj On: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:40 pm

wsherrick wrote:
Don't worry dj. The Glenwood No 6 in my house, like yours; will always be the queen of the house. That is not going anywhere.


I'm not worried - I just hope you are having fun. And I like to hear about the differences in all the varieties... I guess I can be happy with one stove (not like anything else in my life...)

dj
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:35 pm

franco b wrote:Congratulations. With your love of these old stoves you need another from time to time. Something to take you back to the days when steam was king. What a fine example that stove is with the original bricks.


One of the aspects of this stove that sold me on it was that on top of it being absolutely complete with original bricks with the Crawford name molded into them; was that Jimmy informed me that the castings were unusually crisp and sharp. He believes that these castings were from the early part of the run when the iron was first poured, hence the excellent condition of the details. Also no rust pitting or any cracks, etc. With all of that positive information, how could I not acquire this stove?
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:54 am

nortcan wrote:Bad thing about the ""forum friend"" leaving you that way, But like you said, many come to the forum, get all what they ""want"" and good by. Not even enough gratitude to come back and tell us some results about the related subject.
Anyway that gives you the chance to have a real friend being warm next Winter and as a ""bonus"", you will have a nice stove for the next video.


I am a new comer to this forum and take great exception to what you have said here. taking? What is that about? Being new we know little and trying to figure it all out and see if moving to coal heat a good plan for our household. Hopefully ask things that make sense and for every question read 10 or 20 threads to learn something new, at least to us new. For me decisions on how to keep warm in a New England winter are not trivial and do require a lot of thought and budget balancing. I know nothing about some of the more classic stoves but appreciate them or at least my goal is to be warm on a cold winter night. I am looking at a Gibraltar but it is a very heavy beast to move but have heard good reviews from folks here. I am just worried about the weight of stove loaded and pad under it adding up to over 600 lbs in a 4 x 4 area on a 1870's floor. That combined with there only being 1 company that sells coal for under 350 a ton in my area.What does excite me is the long burn times and less work compared to using wood that i currently do. The lack of testing wood with moisture meters and endlessly relighting the wood stove a plus as well. My current biggest fear is the lack of coal supply. At 350 a ton and pick it up myself which requires renting a truck and around here charge $1 a mile plus rent it is big money for fuel. There is one place that quoted me 290 a ton with a $50 delivery charge for 1 to 15 tons all the same. If this company either goes away or raises it prices a bunch coal becomes as unaffordable as fuel oil. In the end I appreciate the classic stoves and started to look for one but all way out of my price range. I need a work horse house heater and fuel i can afford. There was a time that i bought a Corvette on a whim and if wanted to go to Paris in the spring it was no big deal. Those days are gone for me now. At only 61and a small business owner I am feeling like a pensioner hanging on waiting for death if that makes any sense and money is tight and on the east coast in Ct do not see small business in manufacturing coming back any time soon. In the end it comes down to what people can afford and in New England used things sell for distorted prices compared to what they cost in the rest of the country. I think there are some very active members on every forum and many more that listen and read try to get a bit better versed on the subject by listening rather than talking. Ok rant over... But new people are not takers and if that is the general opinion I will quietly leave......
Dave
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: Photog200 On: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:02 am

Very nice stove William, I am sure it will look pristine in its restored condition. It could not ask for a better home!

I am about to start a new thread myself about my new acquisition...

Randy
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:14 am

Hi Dave and welcome to the forum.
First of all, I apologise for the idea my post gave to you. It's completly not the meaning of what I wrote. An other thing that doesn't help is my poor English translation.
Many times I read old posts I sent and realize that it was not exactly what I was meaning.
OK, now about your post, what I meant is the fact that new but also old members asking for infos., help about, as an exemple: how to restore an antique stove,they get a lot of good infos but never come back to talk about the restoration results: so was the infos and help...correct, is the guy happy with the stove...??????????? But not all members do so and a lot share their results with other members.
I got the same road as all new-comers and then if the forum was not there I would still be burning wood :mad:.It's important for all to ask all the questions that may be asked but it's also good to give some feed-back about these questions results, the result is more important than the job itself.
I take Williams title for myself: ""I Think This Will Be The Last One""
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Re: Okay, I Think This Will Be The Last One, Maybe.

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:53 am

I am just worried about the weight of stove loaded and pad under it adding up to over 600 lbs in a 4 x 4 area on a 1870's floor.


Hi Dave and welcome. Many more qualified people can I can tell you about the stove but I wanted to comment on the floor loading. The home of my new stove is on a 1890 house and I too worried about floor loading. So much so that I put support columns under the stove. My little Lowe special are rated at 3000lbs so you know the failure point is way above that. Get a professional or a knowledgeable friend to look at your situation and yes it may be money, but money well spent. This board exists to help people like you so persist your rewards will be great, mine was. LOL.
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