Eye Candy

Eye Candy

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:22 pm

Thought you might want to look at something purdy......

Been working on this little jem for about 8 years now for a customer. Started as a simple repaint job........................

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Quick pic from the front. Hood and cowl are painted black with low gloss clear.
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Then the customer wanted to do a complete overhaul. So out came the motor so we could repair the firewall and repaint the interior engine bay with the correct satin finish black. The pics really don't show it and maybe I'll have to search for some but this 427 is shoehorned into it. The header bolts actually rubbed against the shock towers. A little modification and we could gingerly reinstall the motor. The issues came up while the motor was out. The customer rebuilt everything and refinished it in the correct colors. But then it was like hen's teeth trying to get the parts back from him.

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Definitely a tight fit !!!
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So we are finally getting near the end. I have the customer stop down to see the completed vehicle. He takes it out for a test spin. Puts a little rubber down on the road in front of the shop and brings it back. There is a leak in the heater core !!!!!! :mad: :mad3:

So back in the shop again. This is what we had to do to gain access to it:
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Who's bright idea was this arrangement ??
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And while this far into it again, we are correcting some bad wiring behind the dash. Someone did a real hack job here. Wires cut and taped together, Some wires cut and dangling, and some wires not connected at all.

Hopefully we get it all together by next week and get it the hell out of here. But it does make for some good advertisement and some good questions about the work we do here.



Rick
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:57 pm

Lookin forward to some finished pix--nice toy:)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:15 pm

W code vin or R code vin? Supposedly the 427FE Mustangs were never built. If it is an original factory or dealer installed 427 build it is rare, you wouldn't want to be anything but original with any restoration. Speaking of Mustangs, i looked at a 1965 plain jane 6 cyl 3 speed car yesterday. Rebuilt motor and new clutch. Was in a guys garage with a 98 inspection and he said it was a project he will never get to. I almost bought it but we have a 2 car garage and 4 vehicles right now we drive. If i had the room it would be here right now. $2000, it was complete and straight, needed floors, complete brakes, gas tank etc etc.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam


Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:38 pm

Mozz,

It is an "R" code but for some reason they swapped out motors. It is definitely a tight fit. In fact, they shaved the corner and rear side of the left valve cover to go around the brake master cylinder.

We did change the formula for the Indian Red Fire paint. We substituted larger metal flake that what was original. It totally changed the color and when the sun hits it, the color really pops out at youi. Then there was 3 coats of clear applied and then color sanded and buffed out to almost mirror like.

This was the first overall paint job for me. My dad and brother used to do all the painting here. Dad retired and brother blew out a couple of discs in his back so it fell upon me. After it came out of the booth my brother told me that it was one of the top 2 or 3 paint jobs to ever come out of the booth. Felt pretty damn good after he told me that.


The first Mustang we did for this customer was a 68 Shelby GT 500. From what I'm told, that particular car now resides in Reno in a private collection. And that was after the owner received all kinds of trophies in this area.



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:35 am

Mustang heater core replacement. Disassemble entire vehicle from around heater core, replace heater core. Reassemble entire vehicle around heater core.

Never understood why they could never come up with a better design, the newer mustangs are the same way.



PS Looks nice. Waiting for some better pics outside.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:43 am

Ya know, just to continue being my old PIA self--something has been eating at me --I didn't think Ford even made a 427 c.i. motor--In my day, it was a 428 c.i.-- :wtf: :confused: My buddy Jimmy Levitt (father of Levittowns fame) had one of the 1st cobras & it was a 428 5??? hundred hp
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:05 am

Flyer5 wrote:Mustang heater core replacement. Disassemble entire vehicle from around heater core, replace heater core. Reassemble entire vehicle around heater core. Never understood why they could never come up with a better design, the newer mustangs are the same way.

Doing it that way saves Ford 27 cents per car at build time. It's the same with so many things, no thought for the cost of repairs as long as they can make a little more on the initial sale. :mad:
rberq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:38 am

New cars are no better. Everything built today requires all that and more (due to 900,000 miles of wiring back there ...) to replace a heater core.


That thing is M I N T !!! :punk: 8-) Nice job Rick!! :up: :cheers:

Man is that thing sweet!! :drool: WANT!!
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:51 pm

Sweet Mama! What a project! Thanks for sharing.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
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Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:39 pm

OK--looking it up--why would Ford have built a 427 AND 428 c.i. back when?
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Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: mozz On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:27 pm

And 429. I think they were 2 different blocks. 390-428 429-460. Wikipedia has a good write up, lots were meant to compete with the Dodge 426, but it seems Nascar used to ban certain motors for one reason or another back in the early 60's. I was just in kindergarten.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:59 pm

Kindergarten huh??? smart ass-- :clap: toothy thanx mozz seems to of been a bunch of them out there by Ford back then
mozz wrote:And 429. I think they were 2 different blocks. 390-428 429-460. Wikipedia has a good write up, lots were meant to compete with the Dodge 426, but it seems Nascar used to ban certain motors for one reason or another back in the early 60's. I was just in kindergarten.
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:12 pm

Mozz hit the nail on the head. They were different blocks. And I'll admit I'm not too well versed in the inner workings of them. I too thought the 427 was strictly a Chevy or GM product. But this owner said something about the heads being different, maybe taller or something like that. And the reasoning also had something to do with the ability to fit these things between the shock towers in the front.

Plus Ford was one of the first to start that damn unibody type approach af welding the entire inner structure together. Made engine work and engine swapping a real chore. That was the beauty of the GM's. The ability to remove everything from the firewall on forward. That gave easy access to the frame and engine mounts.

Heater cores and A/C evaporator cores.................. I do quite a few of them in my business. I guess it really started when they first started converting from R-12 to R-134
I took classes to learn how to do them. Then it became almost natural to continue to do Auto HVAC to recoup some of the investment in the training. It seems like I get the tougher cases to repair. Last summer had to do work on a Honda Accord. Heater core leaking so customer wanted both cores replaced since the evap core had to come out first. Owner also complained of AirBag light was on. Honda in their infinite wisdom placed the airbag control computer under the heater core. So when the heater core leaked, it went right into the computer. And we had to remove most of the dash for that job as well.

Monday I'll tackle the wiring on the Mustang. Came to find out that the trade school trained employee doesn't know jack squat about wiring. After 2 days, he's no further along trying to find the short in the headlamp/courtesy light wiring. AAARRRGGGHHHH According to him he needs all kind of testers to move ahead. No jackass, it is a 12 volt system. That was all they used back then. All you need is a 12v test light. It either lights up or it doesn't. :mad: :taz:

Man these kids of today certainly don't have the work ethic that I was taught. Or the belief of improving one's self in their job !!!!!



Rick
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:25 pm

427 is a serious engine. Cross bolted mains, high compression, decent heads...early engines had solid lifters, later ones were hydraulic. 428 is basically a stroked 390...not the same high rpm potential as the 427, but probably less costly to produce.

429 is part of the 385 series engines, along with the 460.

If you want to see a wild engine, look up the 427 cammer.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Eye Candy

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:25 am

That's what I'll be doing this week also Rick--My 89 Chev 454 plow truck stopped getting spark to the TBI---upon looking--too many wires just twisted together, grounds just dangling every which way--no tape, wire nuts or anything close to having been done any where near to right, color code is non-existent. So begins the process of elimination--if it gets to screwy, I've got an old Holly duel feed, mech. distributer & external elec. fuel pump for back up--I hate wiring. The good news is, I've got all summer to frustrate myself--LOL
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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