What Can You Tell Me About "Washed" Anthracite?

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 11:54 am

Hey guys! My father is the head engineer for a power company and he and a coworker were contacted by a water purification company asking them if they would take a lot of anthracite that's been "washed" so they can burn it. Well they are not set up for anthracite but rather bituminous . So my Dad has been talking with them and he called me asking if I could take it all, which I said yes! I have the msds . Specs and everything from them.

Is there any issues with "washed" coal ? (Coal used for filtration) it will be coming to me bagged and on pallets .


 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 11:59 am

Did you ask him how big it was? I know the filtration companies buying from the breaker were getting basically dust. There is barley and anything smaller, barley is almost like sand. They were buying anything sized below barley.

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 12:26 pm

Richard S. wrote:Did you ask him how big it was? I know the filtration companies buying from the breaker were getting basically dust. There is barley and anything smaller, barley is almost like sand. They were buying anything sized below barley.
Waiting on confirmation of that right now.

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 2:01 pm

It's very fine as I thought. Can anything be done with this stuff? Glued together someway into bricks? It's free and delivered to me free if I want it.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 2:08 pm

I've read about people mixing it with cement to form bricks but not sure how successful it was. It might be worth experimenting since its free. I recently saw a thread on here about it. I can't look for it right now. Maybe someone would post l link for it.

 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 2:16 pm

Again Barley is like coarse sand, that stuff is going to be finer. Basically dust. Some stokers can run barley, a Losch will run it and I've seen it used in EFM's too. They aren't going to run that stuff though.

I'd imagine if you could compact it into a "brick" you could probably use it in a hand fired stove, I know I've seen processed coal bricks before but I think they were in they UK. How you would go about that I don't know.

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 3:11 pm

Richard S. wrote:Again Barley is like coarse sand, that stuff is going to be finer. Basically dust. Some stokers can run barley, a Losch will run it and I've seen it used in EFM's too. They aren't going to run that stuff though.

I'd imagine if you could compact it into a "brick" you could probably use it in a hand fired stove, I know I've seen processed coal bricks before but I think they were in they UK. How you would go about that I don't know.
It's the consistency of sand I've been told. I may see if I can grab a sample.


 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 3:37 pm

Hell---FREE??? get the whole deal & if nothing else, ya gotta have a place or 2 ya need fill????--use it instead of mulch??? I'd damn sure find something to do with it!

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 4:04 pm

freetown fred wrote:Hell---FREE??? get the whole deal & if nothing else, ya gotta have a place or 2 ya need fill????--use it instead of mulch??? I'd damn sure find something to do with it!
Fred I'm with you . But can't this stuff effect my ground water if I have a certain amount on the ground? I was telling my dad that ill line my damn driveway with it if nothing else lol. I guess It can't do anything bad to my water if they are using it to filter! I called the water authority that has it and they said its never been used. It's in 1ton bags with hooks for a fork lift on 4'x4' pallets. I can have it shipped to me for free on a 18 wheeler or two. I have the space. But here is the deal. It's 200 tons !

Any of you guys interested ? Anyways there has to be a way to make this stuff bond in bricks . If so I can fabricate a press to sort of form these things and make a crap load of them and maybe even sell some to guys around here but I don't know.

That's a crap load of coal

 
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Post by dcrane » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 4:04 pm

1, 2, 3, 4... might take a while to make a ton BUT...its free :lol:
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 4:30 pm

http://ngureco.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Make-Briqu ... omposition

Pretty good article my father sent me !

If I can get a hold of cheap starch I just might try this. I know I can sell to people here. I'm going Friday to check this all out in person.

In fact I have all the equipment to build a machine to do it for me lol. I have extra motors too ! This might be fun!

 
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Post by steamup » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 4:51 pm

Here you go, mini sizes as a substitute for nut coal


 
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Post by dcrane » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 5:01 pm

$300 per ton for cleaned, baged, hard anthracite nut does not seem so bad to me now :lol:

Those machines look like they cost a lot of money :cry: how much coal dust are we talking about here (500ton?)

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 5:52 pm

Yea I read the article even farther . I did some calculations and it just wouldn't be worth my time. Free is always to good to be true.

It's 200tons

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Tue. Apr. 09, 2013 7:47 pm

Bridgeport Station, a power plant in Bridgeport CT, runs it's boiler on powdered coal. It has a 750 horsepower blower to feed the coal dust to the boiler. It's one of the ways they managed to clean up their stack emissions to keep it online.


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