Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:30 pm

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Wiz On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:04 pm

:blah:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:19 pm


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330863366259&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


There are wannabees all over.
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:36 pm

Ain't nothin' like the real thing.

Mike

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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:37 pm

"Often imitated, never replicated".
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:03 pm

I think highly of the EFM's, I would have one...an older one. But would be somewhat reluctant to buying a new one.

Now the European designs are a bit more progressive...they are held to some stringent emissions over there.
Low emission's output and efficient combustion both added up to using less fuel...it is all good. :)

Here's another video, this is German made.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: smithy On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:07 am

the europeons use a sensor at the stack, the fuel is modulated instead of on a timer the blower is modulated as well. they sell retro kits at http://kotly.com/
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:15 am

smithy wrote:the europeons use a sensor at the stack, the fuel is modulated instead of on a timer the blower is modulated as well. they sell retro kits at http://kotly.com/

I like how they call it "steering" :lol: Wish I could read better Swebish :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: whistlenut On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:23 am

.....and how expensive is this set-up????? ......dealer support??????? Nice to look at and probably works very well, but....... SSDD, and thanks for posting. Glad most everyone is being kind to our environment. :!: :D
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Berlin On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:42 am

I've spoken to a man from poland (now living in the US) who is familiar w/ these types of coal stokers. Most of those stokers have significant drawbacks. They're not as durable, the modulated air/fuel creates problems w/ the burn and reduces the quality of coal that can be burned sucessfully to a narrow set of qualifications, they require more maintenance, and simply will not work w/ american anthracite or any high cokebutton, low AFT bituminous (american) coals. They would work well with western/alaskan subbit.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:29 am

I looked into those units a little, I think berlin is right if the coal swells there will be a huge mess to pick out of there. I really wish there was a company that made a soft coal stoker stove like the stokermatic or combustioneer but, I guess there not a market for them.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:38 am

It looks like they have a under fed stoker now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-automatic-A ... 35cca5433b
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: Pacowy On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:09 am

I know those are new, and I know nothing ever goes wrong with sensors and electronic controls, :lol: but nearly $3k (with shipping) for what essentially is a 15 lb/hr stoker seems pretty expensive compared to what you'd pay for a good used industrial-strength domestic unit of comparable capacity.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
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Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: vermontday On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:31 pm

I agree with Pacowy, it is built like a toy compared to an EFM. Dividing the EFM purchase price by 50 years makes EFM's a bargain!

The $3K price quoted on the EBay ad above does not appear to include the boiler.

It is encouraging that they say they can burn biofuels with a stoker pot similar to an EFM. If politicians decide to tax coal for home heating some day, I am sure the members of this forum will figure out how to "tweak" our EFM's to burn 100 percent biofuels.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520

Re: Look out EFM...there's a new kid on the block!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Just what we need. Electronically controlled stoves. No thanks!

Maybe I can find an electronic 1911? Would be just as useful to me ... :lol:
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