Fuel Oil $$$

Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:20 pm

My brother-in law got fuel oil today. It was $3.70 per gallon. Man am I ever glad I heat with coal :up:
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: av8r On: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:22 pm

I'm on auto delivery and we lock in around July. They just delivered at $2.89. I was surprised it wasn't more. Nice to know it'll still be sitting in the tank the next time they try to deliver..heeheehehehe Won't the delivery guy be surprised when he's only able to put in a few gallons!
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: billw On: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:07 pm

3.70 ouch. Guess I'll have to get the minimum delivery in January and hope I have enough to last the year. Dam I can't wait until the summer to convert to coal.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:44 pm

SuperBeetle wrote:My brother-in law got fuel oil today. It was $3.70 per gallon. Man am I ever glad I heat with coal :up:


Wow, I can get diesel for a little more than that in CT.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: mufwapo On: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:05 pm

Does anybody know of someone who delivers less than 100 gallons? Is that some kind of standard?
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:19 pm

The dealer only makes about 20 cents a gallon on the stuff, so to drive out to Hackensack and back for a $100 fill makes him about $6, not a very profitable adventure assuming he is paying a driver and fuel for the truck. If you are in a route that he goes by, it might be worth his while. I would start by calling the closest guy and work outward.

Your talking about 30 gallons at todays prices, thats pretty scarry. :sick:
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:55 am

my parents have a brand new oil furnace and a well insulated 1800 square ft house, and i am heating 4000 sq ft of poorly insulated space and 2000 sq ft insulated space and i'm spending about 100 a month more than my parents, and when i was home for xmas it was 65 degrees in the house......the garage is 64 right now and the efm is cut back
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: e.alleg On: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:24 pm

coaledsweat wrote:The dealer only makes about 20 cents a gallon on the stuff, so to drive out to Hackensack and back for a $100 fill makes him about $6, not a very profitable adventure assuming he is paying a driver and fuel for the truck. If you are in a route that he goes by, it might be worth his while. I would start by calling the closest guy and work outward.

Your talking about 30 gallons at todays prices, thats pretty scarry. :sick:



I think the dealer is making 20 cents a gallon AFTER all expenses are paid, including the driver. The dealer locks in at wholesale prices in March or August and charges the customer going rate unless they are locked in, and I'll bet that the lock in in May will be much higher than last year. Last March fuel oil was $1.80 wholesale, so if the dealer is selling at $3.70 today that's almost $2.00/ gallon profit. The fuel truck costs about $1/mile to operate in fuel/maintenance alone, the driver probably makes $15/hour.

I used to do my own deliveries when I burned oil, Diesel fuel is the same thing and available in any quantity. Hey when you can't afford a $1200 fillup it's worth paying ten cents a gallon more for diesel.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:50 pm

e.alleg wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:The dealer only makes about 20 cents a gallon on the stuff, so to drive out to Hackensack and back for a $100 fill makes him about $6, not a very profitable adventure assuming he is paying a driver and fuel for the truck. If you are in a route that he goes by, it might be worth his while. I would start by calling the closest guy and work outward.

Your talking about 30 gallons at todays prices, thats pretty scarry. :sick:



I think the dealer is making 20 cents a gallon AFTER all expenses are paid, including the driver. The dealer locks in at wholesale prices in March or August and charges the customer going rate unless they are locked in, and I'll bet that the lock in in May will be much higher than last year. Last March fuel oil was $1.80 wholesale, so if the dealer is selling at $3.70 today that's almost $2.00/ gallon profit. The fuel truck costs about $1/mile to operate in fuel/maintenance alone, the driver probably makes $15/hour.

I used to do my own deliveries when I burned oil, Diesel fuel is the same thing and available in any quantity. Hey when you can't afford a $1200 fillup it's worth paying ten cents a gallon more for diesel.


Diesel includes taxes because it's a motor vehicle fuel, there's a dealer around here that sells "off road diesel" that is dyed red, also known as heating oil. They have a pump right by the regular diesel and the kero pump.

I don't know what the oil dealer I buy from is charging right now, my 275 gal. tank is at a little over 7", the line runs dry at 4". Since I'm heating the domestic hot water with oil I'll be visiting the "off road diesel" pump this week, 10 gallons at a time. I have no intention of getting the 150 gallon minimum delivery of oil! About 2 months ago I finally finished paying off the last minimum delivery.
But they did send me a nice calender.
I really can't say anything bad about them, they are just trying to make a living like everyone else, I've done business with them for 18 years, last time I was in the office (pay the bill in person) I suggested they consider going back to selling coal. ;)
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:12 am

Diesel is actually cleaner than #2 oil as it is passed through a finer filter when processed. Heating oil has a lot more crap in it.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: spc On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:11 pm

What happen to Texas oil? I remember when they shut down because it wasn't profitable but with todays prices!
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:19 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Diesel is actually cleaner than #2 oil as it is passed through a finer filter when processed. Heating oil has a lot more crap in it.


I thought all that stuff in the filter was sediment from my oil tank. :!:
That makes sense, though. Diesel engines use finer nozzles and higher pressures then oil burners.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:02 pm

mufwapo wrote:Does anybody know of someone who delivers less than 100 gallons? Is that some kind of standard?



100 gallons is the minimum around here. If you order less there is a delivery fee of $50 to discourage the practice. I heard a story recently of someone having 50 gallons put in at 3.59 + the fee. Obviously he paid 4.59/gallon. They don't grow em too smart around here. You can buy k-1 kero at the pump for 3.49.
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: BinghamtonNY On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:15 pm

So you guys are saying I can go buy a 5 gallon diesel container fill it at the pump and bring it home and dump it in my tanks. I guess you pay more per gallon but don't get the HUGE bill all at one time...
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Re: Fuel Oil $$$

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:27 pm

BinghamtonNY wrote:So you guys are saying I can go buy a 5 gallon diesel container fill it at the pump and bring it home and dump it in my tanks. I guess you pay more per gallon but don't get the HUGE bill all at one time...


Sure...I'd put a spin-on filter inline first, but yes, it'll work just fine.
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