You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:18 pm

I think what happened in Boston was a MASSIVE violation of rights.

If you don't then we simply aren't going to see eye to eye. Not that we typically do...
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:11 pm

samhill wrote:No body that I know of either Con or Lib wants to pay more in tax but it seems we all enjoy much of what that tax dollar buys. I have never been a fan of the welfare system & many other things & they have all been kept alive by both sides & always will be unless both sides start working toward a common cause, we know the ones in DC aren't doing it but we hire & can fire them. Everyone was in favor of term limits but once an election nears that thought is gone, as I see it many Gov. problems & programs are fed by both sides at the same time they blame the other. For the militias they were pretty much always there just a bunch of boys that play with toys, when it would come down to it I think most would cut & run. Just rights do you no longer have in reality not just what you have been told or think you had?



I see rights being violated all the time. I enjoyed flying I learned as a hang glider pilot then went for general aviation found it to be boring and overly expensive so I found flying ultralights a great enjoyment. Then the FAA had to get involved with the LSA program and screwed up the ul industry to the point prices and regulation became not fun anymore. That is one. I have always enjoyed shooting since I was a youth. Always had guns of all sorts. Mine were not mean or aggressive either they just look that way. Then I also found building rifles a lot of fun as well now again because they cannot get their head out of their asses and see the real problems they are attacking the guns. Morons. We are also fighting with the misconception of all coal being evil because again their heads are in their asses. They have cost us a lot of money as well defending anthracite with EPA. Again found to be to clean to put measures in but still cost us money. They are screwing with my lively hood. This moron in the whitehouse has no concept of what he is doing he is ignorant to who he effects. He advertises to put people on food stamps with mine and your hard earned money and makes it even easier to get it. He wants to give the undocumented democrats ( illegal immigrants ) a free pass. Causing my health care to go up. This country and us Americans are the greatest in the world but they are intent on destroying it and us. Everything he does is costing us money, time, and freedom.
Should I keep going.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:08 pm

Right there with ya Flyer. Living in MA, I'm no stranger to government being against every single damn aspect of my life from work to recreation. Got my first taste of government at age 13 when I found them closing every single place I wanted to ride my dirtbike - not just in MA, but all over the country. I've been at war with them ever since.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:13 pm

Yea what happened to the right to pursue happiness,
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:17 pm

Seemed to disappear right around the time the Kennedy's got into politics. Namely the one they call "Ted" ... :mad:
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:48 am

Just asking, do any of those things mentioned have to do with people violating others rights to do what they feel is theirs? Do any have to do with those that want to turn everything into a money making scheme? I just went to an auction last evening for a nice little 240x270 indoor dirt bike racing arena, went for the really low price of $409k which is low for what they got, the heated building on 52 acres with all mineral rights & campground permits & area along with outdoor courses, not that old & has everything in place, all handicapped assessable, bleachers, lighting, ventilation restrooms, offices, sales & refreshment area the works. Then there was another small 11 acre plot right up the road from me but one of my neighbors that has adjoining property was there so my neighbor & I didn't bid. The trouble is everything is owned, when people tear up property with bikes, quads & snowmobiles people that own the property tend to get upset. For the welfare & foodstamp thing I never did like the programs but both parties keep them going & I know some that truly need it but then others don't & abuse the system, there isn't anything perfect nor idiot & corruption proof. But the idea that only libs are on the Gov. take is a good one. Must be easy to live in an idealistic world where everything you don't like is the fault of one side yet never ends with a change of power.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:49 am

You are the only one talking sides here Sam.

The GOVERNMENT(left AND right) has regulated everything from the water in your toilet to the alcohol in your blood. You can't lay your head down at night without government approved bedding.

And you can't think of a SINGLE example of your rights being violated.

None are so blind as those that WILL NOT see.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:51 am

Well Jpete, as usual you seem to be able to read more into things & ignore what you want. I can recall reading about the moron in the W.H. (I know there have been many but this was directed at the present) others have just blamed libs in general or lib house members. I have been writing that it's been on both sides but you for some reason (I'm thinking because it's me) you cannot comprehend.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:11 pm

samhill wrote:Well Jpete, as usual you seem to be able to read more into things & ignore what you want. I can recall reading about the moron in the W.H. (I know there have been many but this was directed at the present) others have just blamed libs in general or lib house members. I have been writing that it's been on both sides but you for some reason (I'm thinking because it's me) you cannot comprehend.



So you finally agree? :D
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: dcrane On: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:26 pm

huh, wait what... what are we talking about here, Im trying to live week to week and tread water :mad: I gots no time to worry about my bed :lol:
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:59 am

Jpete, you can drink yourself into a coma everyday as long as you hurt no one else, you can lie down on a pile of rags or anywhere else for that matter as long as your in no ones way, who cares you can do whatever you want the regs are on most things to simply guarantee a certain amount of safety & quality in most things we buy without minimum standards can you even begin to imagine the crap that companies would shove out the door? Most laws are & were made because of the greed, stupidity or just plain evilness of some that think they are better than others the big problem is the laws are being made by these same type of people.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:42 am

samhill wrote:Jpete, you can drink yourself into a coma everyday as long as you hurt no one else, you can lie down on a pile of rags or anywhere else for that matter as long as your in no ones way, who cares you can do whatever you want the regs are on most things to simply guarantee a certain amount of safety & quality in most things we buy without minimum standards can you even begin to imagine the crap that companies would shove out the door? Most laws are & were made because of the greed, stupidity or just plain evilness of some that think they are better than others the big problem is the laws are being made by these same type of people.


But that's not what the country was supposed to be. If I want the government writing rules for everything I touch, I'll move to Iran.
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:58 pm

See Ya, Jpete please forget to write. :roll:
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Re: You think some people won't try to take your freedoms?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:45 pm

Awww.....now you went and hurt my feeling. 8-)
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