rberq wrote:Wiz wrote:No increase since first day of employment 3 yrs ago. Copay $20 and meds $7 if generic brand.. kids are covered until their 27th birthday.
No! No! Get with the program! You're expected to CONDEMN Obamacare here, and even though it only went into effect 6 days ago, you are supposed to blame it for all your insurance woes of the last four years. No success stories allowed!
samhill wrote:Jpete, I never said anything except that it's an ignorant person that constantly bites the hand that feeds them. Please go & work where ever you please, somehow I just find it hard to believe that you will ever be satisfied. Your choice was made by you & long before I ever came along so it must have been Obama's fault, what year did your job start heading South (as a figure of speech) no matter which direction it went?
The whole point is you were being paid by the very Gov. that you itch about constantly but at the same time it never bothered your self proclaimed high standards to lower yourself to slug status, so now work hard, make lots of money in "your" chosen field, pay taxes & if I had anything to do with it your tax paid training should be repaid just like any student loan, I get tired of them using my $ for ungrateful slugs.
samhill wrote:UC is part of an employees benefit package & is paid for every hour worked & state run, when they got into the training & the extension after extension that came from federal. If you having paid enough from your working all those years then everyone should get free trade training at say mid age or what ever you are, there is no individual pot that everyone has sitting there, it all comes out of the same pot that everyone (well most anyhow) pay into. Like I said to begin with is that it isn't the fact that you got it as much as the itching & crying about it.
I'm sure you know that NAFTA was a done deal before Clinton got in office & was already signed by Bush the First but then had to be signed again after Congress ratified it.
jpete wrote:You don't actually believe that do you?
mikeandgerry wrote:Your cynicism is clouding your sense of reality.
jpete wrote: Forgive me. I live in Rhode Island where cynicism IS reality.
samhill wrote:I don't follow what your getting at CO, are you saying you wanted both employer provided HC & a subsidy? I haven't even bothered checking on mine yet, I'll wait till the end of this month or so I pay over $400 a month now & it is just a Medicare supplement & sure doesn't cover everything.
rberq wrote:cabinover wrote:Just found out mine will be going up, out of my pocket mind you, around $150/month. That doesn't include the higher costs of prescriptions.
Are you saying your premiums went up BECAUSE of Obamacare? Or just that they went up, as they always do? Did you think your employer-provided coverage would all of a sudden get less expensive? Mine (through my employer) went up every year. Out-of-pocket premiums were almost $7000 per year for "pretty good but not great" coverage for two people, with the company picking up the rest which they said totalled over $13,000. AND my prescription coverage was not considered "creditable coverage" for Medicare; in other words, not even as good as Medicare Part D.
It sounds like you are disappointed because you don't qualify for subsidized insurance. I can understand that, but I'm not sure why you blame Obamacare for increasing the cost of your employer-provided insurance. On the bright side, if you were to experience the "blessing" of losing your job and your insurance, you would now for the first time be able to get insurance.