Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

Have your health care rates gone up under The Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare)?

yes
33
54%
no
19
31%
no idea
9
15%
don't care
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 61

Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: rberq On: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:59 pm

titleist1 wrote:We will be making changes to our coverage ... I may drop mine altogether since as i understand it they can't get their penalty money since i never get a refund back from the IRS!

IRS may not get any penalty from you, but the hospital will happily send you to bankruptcy court if you are unfortunate enough to get hurt or sick.
There's an interesting piece in today's NYTimes on predatory/extortionary hospital billing practices, pretty much echoing the piece in Time magazine a few months ago.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:34 pm

I still contend that per the Constitution all bills involving revenue and spending must originate in the House Of Representatives, and the Affordable Care Act (which was declared by the Supreme Court to be a tax) originated in the Senate. The Supreme Court should have struck it down as soon as it was declared to be a tax that originated in the Senate.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: rberq On: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:29 pm

I passed on your viewpoint to Clarence Thomas. He replied with his usual eloquent silence.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:43 pm

rberq wrote:I passed on your viewpoint to Clarence Thomas. He replied with his usual eloquent silence.


Which is why people shouldn't automatically listen to SCOTUS.

They maybe be the "supreme" court, but they aren't "supreme" beings. They can and do make mistakes.

They might get it wrong more often than they get it right.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: rberq On: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:22 am

jpete wrote:They maybe be the "supreme" court, but they aren't "supreme" beings. They can and do make mistakes.

Yes. "W" comes to mind.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:24 am

Once again Jpete, I sort of agree with you but they are the law of the land & disagree or not we have to abide by it until or unless it is changed. By the same token the Houses & the very Constitution were written by mere mortals & the same way they knowing this instituted means to make changes. The shame of it is IMO is that we have run out of people in position (& possibly altogether) that I feel would qualify to make changes that are for the good of the country & people rather than themselves via special interests. :cry:
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:30 am

I don't think it was up to the SC to declare it null and void. They declared it a tax and the rules speak for themselves. It should have been null and void instantly as it was against the rules as understood. I blame the weak leadership in the Congress for not making the case for the origination of the tax.

Kevin
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:17 pm

samhill wrote:Once again Jpete, I sort of agree with you but they are the law of the land & disagree or not we have to abide by it until or unless it is changed. By the same token the Houses & the very Constitution were written by mere mortals & the same way they knowing this instituted means to make changes. The shame of it is IMO is that we have run out of people in position (& possibly altogether) that I feel would qualify to make changes that are for the good of the country & people rather than themselves via special interests. :cry:


Nullification is the answer to an out of control SCOTUS but unfortunately, those in power have made the mere mention of the word an automatic inclusion into the "tin foil hat" club.

And too many people agree with them.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:47 pm

You can sign up all sorts of people for medical coverage at the expense of the working class, but what happens when (taking a page right out of Ayn Rand) the Doctors shrug? Who will care for us when there are no doctors willing to play the game? In the land of the free, will the government force doctors to work against their will?

Don't look now, but 70% of all California doctors are refusing to provide their services to people in need via the mandated Obamacare exchanges. :clap:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/doctors-b ... le/2540272
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:34 am

I got a notice from my employer that our company health insurance will go up 29% on the first of January. I called to inquire about the rate increase and they explained that they are expecting losses for next year, so they are trying offset these expected losses by increasing premiums.

So next year I will once again be paying more for the same thing.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:23 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:I got a notice from my employer that our company health insurance will go up 29% on the first of January. I called to inquire about the rate increase and they explained that they are expecting losses for next year, so they are trying offset these expected losses by increasing premiums.

So next year I will once again be paying more for the same thing.




Next year will be an interesting one for sure. More and more people are realizing they do not like supporting the entitled anymore. I guess we will find out just how many in November.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:41 pm

Obama continues to change the rules of what is now our law, this being the Affordable Care Act. Where on earth did he get the power to alter a law on his own, without Congress altering it? Last I heard, he had made six changes to it without seeking out the assistance of Congress. The sixth being the extension of the deadline to sign up. And we stand back and let him get away with it. He is making a mockery of our Constitutional form of governance.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:21 pm

lsayre wrote:... assistance of Congress

Isn't that what we call an oxymoron?
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:43 pm

rberq wrote:
lsayre wrote:... assistance of Congress

Isn't that what we call an oxymoron?


Only if you enjoy having a President who is usurping powers that he doesn't have. I wouldn't use the word 'we'.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:16 am

New Obamacare taxes and fees coming soon in 2014. Even if you weren't paying more before, you will be now.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/surprise ... ees_122013
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