Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

Have your health care rates gone up under The Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare)?

yes
33
54%
no
19
31%
no idea
9
15%
don't care
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 61

Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:14 am

Isayre, Really? Do you really believe that one?
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:16 am

samhill wrote:Isayre, Really? Do you really believe that one?


Yes, I really believe that charity hospitals are and should be (and have been) funded by private philanthropists. As I said, coerced health care charity is not charity at all. It is Obamacare.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:20 am

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/was ... ills_n.htm Haven't you ever heard the old saying that there is no such thing as a free lunch?
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:27 am

You seem to be confusing mandated (I.E., government coerced) health care (provided at the hospital of your choosing) for those without any form of medical insurance with the care provided by actual Charity Hospitals. Two different animals. Thus your lack of understanding.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:05 am

Once again your right, charity hospitals have unlimited funds from kind understanding billionaires & I guess that they also provide the hospitals that cannot turn someone away as well. Thank you for your willing support. I would like to carry this further but I'm off to Breakfast at Tiffany's, an estate sale & some other errands so have a good day, really. :)
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:10 am

Flyer5 wrote:Like I said we will see the ins rates rise, that will be tough but wait till you sell a house or some of the other taxes related to it. I have not confirmed but someone was also saying that there is also a tax that every single transaction you do in a bank. Move money you will be charged $1.
Any scholars on here find anything like this in the bill? I did not make it through all 27 hundred or thousand pages or so. I think the nausea started at page 5.


I haven't found a "transaction fee or tax" in the Obamacare law but Congress Ellison of MN is pushing The Inclusive Prosperity Act which adds a fee on the majority of financial transactions conducted. (
http://ellison.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=907&catid=86
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
). May be that's what you saw.

This is the same guy who said “The bottom line is we’re not broke," Ellison told a gathering of Minnesota Democrats. "There’s plenty of money, it’s just the government doesn’t have it. The government has a right, the government and the people of the United States have a right to run the programs of the United States. Health, welfare, housing – all these things.” That was on AUG 5, 2013. I wish I knew what version of the Constitution he is using because my copy says I have the right to keep most of what I earn to spend as I see fit. Lisa
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: obNwv On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Support the people who want to defund obamacare,Why should the working class have to support those who don't want to work and the congress that came up with this socialized heath care.Big business and congress are getting waivers,but not the working class.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: plumb-r On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:28 am

Shoe just dropped off the other foot. My wife just got proposed increase for our heath insurance, she has thru work. Proposed increase this year is $7,000. Combine that with the $2,000 increase last year. We have had a $9,000 increase, that's nearly a 100% increase in the last two years. I think if they are not going to jail drug offenders anymore, they are going to have to jail me to make me have health insurance. :mad:
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:14 pm

Just got my sign up package for medical "benefits" at the new job.

$700/mo for family coverage. That's slightly more than 1/4 of my income.

Thanks Obama! :mad:
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:00 pm

Lets face it: Obamacare was designed from the very start to fail miserably so the American populous would be in great financial straights over it and eventually be forced to cry out for pure socialized "single payer" health care provided 100% by the benevolent government, instead of via greedy private health care insurance companies. There is a reason why no one was allowed to read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/au ... tual-sing/

http://news.yahoo.com/-harry-reid-says- ... 01028.html

http://www.freemarketcure.com/singlepayermyths.php
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:26 pm

jpete wrote:Just got my sign up package for medical "benefits" at the new job.

$700/mo for family coverage. That's slightly more than 1/4 of my income.

Thanks Obama! :mad:

Whine, whine, whine, you rich guys never want to pay your fair share.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:34 am

franco b wrote:
jpete wrote:Just got my sign up package for medical "benefits" at the new job.

$700/mo for family coverage. That's slightly more than 1/4 of my income.

Thanks Obama! :mad:

Whine, whine, whine, you rich guys never want to pay your fair share.



:lol: I see what you did there.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:35 am

Whether your rates are going to go up or down depends on the state you live in and the plan you are on. Some NY and CA residents may actually see a decrease but that will be the exception and not the rule. The reasons for the discrepancies is because NY and CA already mandate that insurance policies covers X,Y,Z and everything else under the sun. This is one of the major drivers of insurance premiums. States like Ohio allowed for "bare bones" health insurance plans and those will no longer be available under Obamacare, becsue of the expanded coverage you're going to pay more in those states.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:35 pm

So lets see if I got this right. Conservative States like Ohio that tried to be more Constitutionally free will now see health care cost increases averaging about 60% to 75% across the board so the more fully socialist states like NY and CA can get their just reward for being good comrades and fellow travelers with the 'O' man, as they see a nice decrease in their health care costs.
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Re: Poll: Have your health care rates gone up under Obamacare?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:11 am

The predictions for the rate drops for some people in those states is based on the higher enrollment rates in those states. You have to keep in mind Larry they are already paying more than someone in Ohio. That's assuming everything goes as planned but if you want my opinion this thing is train wreck waiting to happen.

People in Ohio are going to see their rates increase becsue they will have more comprehensive coverage whether they want it or not. If I recall correctly the average increase in Ohio is gong to be about 38%.
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