Septic tank lid

Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: mozz On: Fri May 03, 2013 8:18 pm

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Working on the same thing, dug out the lid, had tank pumped(last time was 1972 i was told by owner of the septic company)$375 ouch, now have to find why the outlet pipe is not draining.
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri May 03, 2013 9:34 pm

Let me ask you as well, what did you see when you pumped it out? Was it sizzling , making a sound, or was it still?

If it really was not pumped since 1972 I will guess your field is shot. But I have a hard time believing that,40 years? how long have you lived there? Most systems only last 25 to 30 years so I'm told. Mine lasted longer but it finally went south last year,,same problem, water would not flow into the field. It could be something else so check it out to be sure, but....

Prepare to get your check book out.
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri May 03, 2013 9:46 pm

Oh..one more question for you and Rich, do you have well water, do you have a water conditioner, do you discharge it into the septic tank?
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri May 03, 2013 10:50 pm

I take it a boiling tank is bad? Doesn't sound good ...

Grandpas cinder block getup lasted 60 years ... so I figure my setup should be good for 120. According to the neighbors, it was installed in the late 60's, so I'm all set in my lifetime. :lol:
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri May 03, 2013 11:02 pm

SMITTY wrote:I take it a boiling tank is bad? Doesn't sound good ...

Grandpas cinder block getup lasted 60 years ... so I figure my setup should be good for 120. According to the neighbors, it was installed in the late 60's, so I'm all set in my lifetime. :lol:


No no no, when you open the tank it should be alive, sizzling, boiling, active... and hot or warm in the winter, enough to melt snow when its not too cold.. a septic system is a living thing. And it can be harmed in ways you would not think of..

Wash your dishes with anti bacterial soap ? not good , not good at all. Nope, if you have a septic system do some reading on maintaining it, you will be surprised on how many thing you are doing wrong.

Rule of thumb, if it does not come out of your body you don't want it in your tank. There are exceptions but thats the jist of it. One can disagree but it will come down to pay me now or pay me later.. no short cuts here. Read up and save your money down the road..

Oh and edit to add.. DON'T use any product like Rid Ex or anything that says it will help your system, It's snake oil.. Any state dept of health will tell you that if you look into septic system maintenance..
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri May 03, 2013 11:18 pm

Ah I see what you mean. I knew bacteria & heat were a good thing in tanks. Plenty of both in mine. There were these huge mutant millipede looking things crawling all over the underside of the lid too. :lol:

We've been here 10 years - the previous owners pumped it out in '00, & I just did it in '10. Everything looked good. Even still had the baffle intact around the inlet to the amazement of the septic truck driver. Had a layer of crap on top, then water, then about a foot of mud at the very bottom. Looked to be working fine.
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri May 03, 2013 11:22 pm

Yeah Smitty, your system seems healthy by what you say. But read up anyway, it's worth learning and don't take but 15 minutes..
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri May 03, 2013 11:30 pm

10-4 man - thanks for the info. 8-)
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri May 03, 2013 11:40 pm

SMITTY wrote:10-4 man - thanks for the info. 8-)


No problem, when my system failed last year I learned everything there was to learn, I found out I did not know what I should have. Another thing overlooked is cotton fuzz balls coming out of your washing machine..

Anyway I put in a new system last year, my recommended pump out for me is 19 years. I may do it once between now and death..lol

http://inspectapedia.com/septic/tankpump.htm
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 04, 2013 8:42 am

grumpy wrote:Oh..one more question for you and Rich, do you have well water,


Yes... It's actually accessible inside the house. There is a "bunker" that goes out under the front patio that has a aluminum manhole if you need to replace the well pump.

do you have a water conditioner,


Just a sediment filter.


do you discharge it into the septic tank?


Apparently not since there is no water running into it when you use the sinks etc., Let me go over this again, the issue with the toilet is unrelated. You can flush it and it works, water goes to the septic every flush. It just doesn't work that great when you flush. It's been like that since we bought the house and I think the toilet either just plain sucks or possibly something blocking it at the toilet.

As far as the sinks backing up , this is what I think and what I suspected before. There is a second tank. There is no water running to the septic when you use the sinks. It drains slowly but does drain, we can still use the water but we have been making sure to use it sparingly. It's not a huge issue for the time being, water starts leaking out a clean out in the basement when it gets backed up... The septic tank was replaced in 2006, what I'm guessing is the grey water tank has been there since they built the house in '51. Im any event we'll find out this week.
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 04, 2013 8:46 am

grumpy wrote:No no no, when you open the tank it should be alive, sizzling, boiling, active... and hot or warm in the winter, enough to melt snow when its not too cold.. a septic system is a living thing..


It most certainly works, you can see the outline of it in the winter. ;)
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 04, 2013 8:57 am

grumpy wrote: Another thing overlooked is cotton fuzz balls coming out of your washing machine..


We have a filter on the washing machine discharge. It kind of looks like a huge water filter. There is really fine screen pouch inside it.

Similar to this: http://www.septicsolutions.net/store/Fi ... reInfo.htm
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat May 04, 2013 9:32 am

Richard S. wrote:
grumpy wrote: Another thing overlooked is cotton fuzz balls coming out of your washing machine..


We have a filter on the washing machine discharge. It kind of looks like a huge water filter. There is really fine screen pouch inside it.

Similar to this: http://www.septicsolutions.net/store/Fi ... reInfo.htm

Richard,
I've been following this thread and I'm considering one of these. Do you have any problems with the housing leaking after reassembling the filter? Is it easy to re-assemble? My fear is that my wife won't pay attention to the fit of the housing after she would clean it - I see the spray from the pressure on pump-out going all over the place :shock: I know my wife ...
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 04, 2013 10:41 am

VigIIPeaBurner wrote:I've been following this thread and I'm considering one of these. Do you have any problems with the housing leaking after reassembling the filter?


It's simple as it can be. If you look at the image there is two latches on the top that hold down the lid. That lid has a rubber seal but the water never gets that high. When you pop the lid off the mesh filter just sits on top of the housing like a basket and you just pull it out.

My fear is that my wife won't pay attention to the fit of the housing after she would clean it


I don't think you can get the lid latched if it wasn't seated properly. You have to push down on it a little because of the rubber seal.
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Re: Septic tank lid

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Sat May 04, 2013 11:56 am

grumpy wrote: Oh and edit to add.. DON'T use any product like Rid Ex or anything that says it will help your system, It's snake oil.. Any state dept of health will tell you that if you look into septic system maintenance..


Growin up my grandpop always these product are a joke. He claimed NOTHING beats a couple packets of yeast a year and flush all the mice you get in your mousetraps down. He has had his home since 65 never had any issues or required a pump out. Thats was 4 kids and a wife to boot. Cloudy/Gray lines sure do help tooo :roll2: :shh:
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