Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 07, 2013 2:32 pm

It's not a new tax, it's a way to enforce existing taxes by making the retailer collect them as opposed to the current system where the burden is on the consumer of remitting them to their state government. Most people aren't aware of this but if you buy something online any sales tax on the item is supposed to paid to the state.

http://www.revenue.state.pa.us/portal/s ... _tax/14489

Use Tax
Out-of-state businesses and Internet vendors often falsely advertise that they sell taxable items “tax free”. However, Pennsylvania law requires the payment of use tax by any person who purchases taxable goods or services delivered into or used in Pennsylvania if sales tax is not collected by the vendor. Use tax is the counterpart of the state and local sales taxes.

When Pennsylvania sales tax is not charged by the seller on a taxable item or service delivered into or used in Pennsylvania, the consumer is required by law to report and remit use tax to the Department of Revenue. The use tax rate is the same as the sales tax rate: 6 percent state tax, plus an additional 1 percent local tax for items purchased in delivered to or used in Allegheny County and 2 percent local tax for Philadelphia.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: rockwood On: Tue May 07, 2013 2:38 pm

I know. The bottom line is, more money will be coming out of our pockets through taxation. I'm not onboard with that.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Berlin On: Tue May 07, 2013 8:20 pm

Richard, most people are aware of that (as am I). IT IS in effect a new tax, because the current "tax" is unenforcable and uncollectable from almost everyone that shops online. Make no mistake, this will have no significant impact on brick and mortar stores and is simply a way to achieve further control, regulation and taxation. The idiots who have brick and mortar stores and claim they're struggling because they can't compete w/ online retailers need to realize that the tax is not the reason for their failing and floundering business. It reminds me of shows like "restaurant impossible" etc. where people are extremely reluctant to change and always want to blame something else for their failing venture.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue May 07, 2013 9:07 pm

This will just cause more people to spend even less money. Business's as well. This government has no clue what they are doing. If they want more revenue, create more jobs by lowering costs to business and getting people to buy more from business's. They are screwing the pooch. Again! :mad:
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: KLook On: Tue May 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Hahahaha! I disagree Flyer5, they know exactly what they are doing.

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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue May 07, 2013 9:57 pm

KLook wrote:Hahahaha! I disagree Flyer5, they know exactly what they are doing.

Kevin



I am afraid you are probably correct.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: samhill On: Wed May 08, 2013 7:59 am

Flyer, that would work if the businesses were here in America & hiring Americans but that isn't usually the case. It would also help a wee bit if when the cost of production goes down then perhaps they would lower the price, that's another thing that seldom happens. It took a long time to gradually slide this deep ii isn't going to come back quickly if at all.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed May 08, 2013 11:15 pm

So, how's production in china going Dave? :lol:
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

SMITTY wrote:So, how's production in china going Dave? :lol:




toothy :nana:
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu May 09, 2013 9:17 pm

samhill wrote:Flyer, that would work if the businesses were here in America & hiring Americans but that isn't usually the case. It would also help a wee bit if when the cost of production goes down then perhaps they would lower the price, that's another thing that seldom happens. It took a long time to gradually slide this deep ii isn't going to come back quickly if at all.




Not sure I follow ya Sam. I often find items made here that are less expensive than some foreign products of like. Business's are slowly making their way back but it can be helped along if the govt would just level the playing field. Instead of giving away all the money for nothing. Do away with welfare, corporate and private and you will see lots of changes for the better. People will be much more motivated to get a job .
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: samhill On: Fri May 10, 2013 8:06 am

I agree with you Flyer in reality corporate welfare was the reason most industry left, the Gov. gave them incentives to do so. Never was a fan of private welfare, I can see a short term need at times but it should always be graduated down rather than up now it's become another thing that's going to be awful hard to redo simply because it's been allowed to become a way of life for so many & so long they consider it their right. A lot of those businesses moving back are now doing so because the workers overseas are starting to grow some & demanding changes so all of a sudden it's become an American thing to do when the American thing would have been to stay in business here all along. Just do a search of how much CEO compensation has increased over the decades & the best of times was when both business & labor worked together rather than fighting but it seems like the constant blame game is what they want, anyhow it's gonna be awhile but we will come back.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Fri May 10, 2013 8:27 am

The cost of shipping(fuel oil) and a rising standard of living abroad will level the playing field. Too , new small businesses will start to regrow and out compete the big companies with their out of balance upper and middle management levels and their need to make profits for their stockholders . Sort of like re industrialize the existing economy with smaller leaner co.'s Like maybe small car co.'s or washing machine mfg.'s or coal boiler co.'s ....Wait I think it has already started :D Good lookin' out on that Flyer!

Waldo.

PS . Im not an economist but I did stay a Holiday Inn express last night.
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: home harvest On: Fri May 10, 2013 10:51 pm

Last I saw they were claiming that this was to help the small brick & mortar business' compete. That's a red herring as far as I'm concerned. This is about revenue for the states. I'm in sales, and I've managed retail stores for the past 10 years. I've yet to see even a small business that doesn't sell online. And as one person said, it doesn't take much to have $1 mil gross sales. The problem isn't inequity between business', because if that were the case this could have been fixed years ago. No, its because more business' AND consumers have learned to save money buying online. If I'm a state senator I look at all that money changing hands and try to figure out how to get a share. Never mind that it's already taxed when it's earned. Never mind that it's taxed when you die. They want a piece of it every time it passes from one person to another. I really wonder what a dollar is worth by the time it's destroyed. It's probably been taxed twice its face value. Maybe this is how the government earns all that money it hands out to save it's crony business partners while the rest of us continue to struggle along. Print a dollar, hand it out, collect two dollars. Sounds like a pyramid scheme. I wonder who the losers will be? hmmm
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Re: Internet sales tax passes the Senate 70 to 24

PostBy: KLook On: Sat May 11, 2013 6:55 am

It all goes back to the Founders insisting on NO state bank and no state religion! Nothing has changed in 200+ years or a thousand years or more, even if the newest editions think we are so much smarter then everyone that came before. Funny how the term pyramid scheme keeps coming up over and over in fiscal discussions. I think it sums up our predicament pretty well. The promise of wealth for all and greater prosperity, etc,etc,
To me, it is the same tactic used in religion. Money, labor, devotion flow to the top of the pyramid in the "hope" of something in return. Usually enriching the ones at the top of the pyramid. For more on this see, the Pope, the Bakers, Oral Roberts, Mit Romney, and on and on in various forms and success rates.
The masses have power, but they are lurching to and fro wielding it. Chasing every rainbow out there.

Kevin
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