Closing roads for parades, races, etc.

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Closing roads for parades, races, etc.

PostBy: home harvest On: Sat May 11, 2013 12:04 pm

I'm not 100% sure this post fits the thoughtful part of this category, but I've noticed an escalating level of road closures in my town of Bloomsburg Pa over the past couple of years. Now maybe this is a local phenomena, maybe not. But here is my position. As a taxpayer I pay to keep those roads passable. I need to pass through Bloomsburg to get to work. My job is not 9-5 M-F. I work weekends and evenings. I don't schedule a 5 mile detour in my commute.

There have been 2 road runs in the past month that have caused me to be late for work. I'm talking about closure of public roads for the day...for runners. Don't they make tracks and trails to run on? Must they really close the roads I need to use for my gainful employment?

Is it fair to ask, if they close the road for these runners, then can I just drive through fields and yards to get to work?

Parades are shorter, but equally inconvenient. As we come into the summer season I can expect main street to be closed to traffic every week or two for some celebration, or another. I've asked owner's of business' on main street if they welcome this for the additional business they get. The bars and restaurants apparently like it. The others detest it. The owner of a men's clothing store told me he may as well close on those days. Families out to watch a parade are not shopping for suits and ties.

I'm sure there is another side to this. I know I'm supposed to "feel good" about all of this community togetherness. I just wish they could get together someplace other than in front of my truck. I have 4 wheel drive, and I'm not afraid to use it! OK, I'm ready. Tell me how I'm wrong to feel this way. This is opinion, so I have no reference material to add. I welcome other opinions and thoughts.
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PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat May 11, 2013 1:32 pm

SOB's--they obviously don't know who you are-- :clap: toothy
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PostBy: samhill On: Sat May 11, 2013 3:48 pm

I think they should also make all those runners, parade watchers & participants as well as the sponsors pay taxes as well :oops: never mind, I guess maybe one or two do. Did it ever occur to you to leave a wee bit earlier?
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PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat May 11, 2013 7:01 pm

i wonder if they anounce it way ahead of time like they do here. the run for the red is in it 6th yr here. brings millions to a "blighted" area for small biz. yes it sucks but not as bad as the ying yangs who closed the only way down the mountain without a 20 mi detour for the dreaded."Bridge repair" gunn take a yr??? there are hundreds of worn out bridges in our infrastructure

at least the new roads gives me a chance to scout for "project" boats,cars,stoves,campers,tractors,ect........ 8-)
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PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat May 11, 2013 8:42 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:i wonder if they anounce it way ahead of time like they do here. the run for the red is in it 6th yr here. brings millions to a "blighted" area for small biz. yes it sucks but not as bad as the ying yangs who closed the only way down the mountain without a 20 mi detour for the dreaded."Bridge repair" gunn take a yr??? there are hundreds of worn out bridges in our infrastructure

at least the new roads gives me a chance to scout for "project" boats,cars,stoves,campers,tractors,ect........ 8-)



Bridge repairs here seem to take forever. It seems like they have to permit each step. Work goes on for a few weeks then it stops, then a few weeks later they are at it again. Gotta love bureaucracy.
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PostBy: samhill On: Sat May 11, 2013 8:50 pm

We got a bridge replacement going on right up the road from me on Rt.6 & we only have to go around the block, a short 20 minute drive in these parts. When they said they were going to do it the wife & I figured we didn't go that way much, ya never know how much your gonna miss something until it's gone.
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PostBy: home harvest On: Tue May 14, 2013 8:47 pm

Dang, I thought this was thoughtful debate, Fred.

Which days should I leave earlier, samhill. I'm not allowed to punch in until 5 min before my shift. Getting to work 20 minutes early every day and sitting in the parking lot ain't my idea of fun.

Poconoeagle hits the nail on the head, and actually makes a very good point. It's not the closures themselves that create the problem. It's the lack of notice. The town owns one of those big electric signs...I know because they use it every year to advertise the fireman's carnival. I wish they would use that electric sign a few days prior to closing a road so people could plan an alternate route. That would be sensible. Oh well. Can't change government.

Don't get me started on bridge repairs. The Interstate 80 bridge replacement over the Susquehanna is yet another 5 mile detour. But that one was announce by PennDOT weeks in advance. The on-ramp should be open again in a year or two. Then I won't have to drive through town anymore. I'll be cruisin' the interstate again.
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PostBy: samhill On: Tue May 14, 2013 9:10 pm

HH, sounds like a local miscommunications problem maybe try an editorial in the local paper or doing some phone calling. Even in my little rural area road closures for whatever reason are advertised well in advance there again a detour around here is often 30 miles. I've never worked a job where I wasn't allowed to be early (late was a whole different ballgame) a little bit of being the squeaky wheel & you might find there are more people that feel the same.
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue May 14, 2013 9:14 pm

MA is the epitome of bureaucratic boondoggles when it comes to construction projects. Just Google the Big Dig - BILLIONS over budget, over schedule, complete with corruption, kickbacks, favoritism, and shoddy workmanship to boot.

On a local level, it took my hometown 10 YEARS to fix a bridge on the south end of town. This bridge being out meant you had to drive 10 miles out of the way to get around it. I could've rebuild this damn thing MYSELF in about 2 weeks!!! It was a small 2 lane road about 18' wide and the bridge itself was 20' long MAX. What a friggin' joke ...

I agree with you 100% - the economy is supposed to run smoothly. Does the gov't NOT want their tax money?? Then let us know when the damn road will be closed! That;s more money for me to spend and more taxes for those jerks to steal. But, then again, nothing the government does is SENSIBLE. :roll:

I will say however that my town and surrounding towns are pretty good with advance notification by paper, and portable sign. Some other towns, not so much. :mad:
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PostBy: samhill On: Tue May 14, 2013 9:29 pm

Don't want to change the direction of this but I was at our Twp. meeting earlier & the subject of roads & bridges came up (as usual) they talked like Pa. is finally going to consider getting cookie cutter type bridges where they save on engineering for everyone but instead just put in set predetermined foundations for different basically pre-fab bridges. I asked about if they would consider the composite type like some states are using & the supervisor on the phone (also Sec. of Ag.) had never heard of them, kind of sad when a retired guy from Linesville has more info than a guy from Linesville but part of the Harrisburg circle knows or at least admits to knowing, I guess it would cut down on contract awarding. :roll: But with our aging infrastructure I think it's going to be more common than not & advance warnings would be nice. 8-)
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue May 14, 2013 9:34 pm

Using composite would be too smart Sam - you have too much faith in our leaders. Imagine a bridge that lasted 100 years and was impervious to road salt & corrosion! :lol:

Naw, lets stick with steel. :roll:
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PostBy: franco b On: Tue May 14, 2013 11:28 pm

This one was only $700.
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu May 16, 2013 10:58 pm

Wow that's a beauty of engineering right there. 8-)
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