Union Stove Works Invader No. 2 Base Burner on Ebay

So my first question of the day is the air path goes up the stove over that ridge and down to the flue (4.25" x 5.5" - hmm, need an adaptor for that one). So is the gate opening shown in the first post with a light on it a draft controller as you can see from the post above when open it's open to the fire chamber, so it's no secondary heater. TO that very large bird of prey living in the Poconos that posts here you have to notice the square nuts....Sorry fire pot ring not ash ring....

Oh and it's new home where it will be a worker bee, see Toby in the background waiting for new clothes (windows) will be a decorative piece.

Oh, and how could I forget the ash pan is a sorry mess..

coalnewbie wrote:Oh, and how could I forget the ash pan is a sorry mess..

Is that the ash pan's lid?
Seriously, that ""squarish"" stove is winner. If I didn't found the Golden Bride for the small living room, a stove like yours would have been a perfect match
Thanks for the photos.

I SEE
In preparation for the temporary tattoos you will be receiving with ,not a switch, but those zoftick irons, you decided to match the color scheme. Like the teen chicks these days with pink hair and socks and t backs.......YOU
will match the.......BLACK & BLUE Decor!!! Shellie obviously is very good with that whip thingy and the arm strength will be like swatting flys with the Poker..... AND if you stop being the "STOVE WHISPERER" there will be other beatings I'm sure

OK there is square nuts....Phew thats a start...

no prob on the ash pan. I made four this past week....whats another

ok so theres room under her shoes for Black painted or plain durarock/hardi board with a cool piece of 1" ? 1.5"? 2"? slate under him for heat vs wood?? pocono lake supply is 1/3 mile away......

coalnewbie wrote:

Yeah!! where are those photos ??
William EARNS his money,, I don't think he's 'rich' and that Texas stove was in Texas when he bought it,, at the restorer's place..

I guess the c rappy MI weather of late has our sense of humor evaporating. I know W works hard for his money. Thx for the advice on peering underneath the paint and yes photos but today does not mean that early on my day off. I can tell that you the smallest stove in the series was probably meant for the peasant with the tiny house but it's potential output more than serves my needs. No sub basement but stunning detail in the iron, I guess that really is a lost art these days. Now where is that MEK......

I guess I should have tried to be a bit less serious.. I jsut know that William has a hell of a commute to work, worked through hurricane Sandy until it became too dangerous to go into the train yard due to roving groups of hungry muggers.. And the weird hours he works.. !!

But I know he's truely rich in many ways:: just HOW MANY stoves does he have?? An Rich with an appreciation of th simpler life of 100 years ago.

Greg L

OK, that air/exhaust flow has me confused,, take a photo of the back of the stove showing the whole back of the stove..

Does any of the exhaust off the top of the fire go down to the base of the stove? under the ashpan?? around the ash pan?

It looks like, from the photo of the square sliding damper above the flue exit, is the stove an 'OAK' confituration?? As you said no secondary heat
exchanger ? Do you mean no passageway down the back of the stove and back up to the flue exit??

What a sweet looking stove. I really like the small square/rectangular stoves..

Greg L

Greg,

I will send the pic later but as I see it a very cute little simple old stove devoid of all those fancy base burner things but it exactly serves my purpose. After my morning coffee I am going to look closer. The heavy coal heat lifting is done elsewhere.

Nickelling is style and if I look at Dougs No 3 he sold, it does nothing for me and I am sure that the nickelling treatment was for the next, bigger and fancier stove in the series. Even today that is now a car manufacturer gets you to pay $10,000 more for the same car, although I think the No 3. did have a base burner system. The same goes for Dougs Red Cross Ensign vs my Red Cross Garnet No 48, I do not have the $8500 but even if I did, the Garnet would be my choice but I would pay for the nickelling in Qc if money was no object (Pierre, WOW). As a used car salesman once told me, "There is an a$$ for every seat", you can't argue religion, politics or style choice.

I am almost sure the No 2 did not have those baubles if I look very closely. That plain black finish that offends William is original but I suspect there is something under the finial which I intend to probe later. My main worry right now if the 5.5" x 4.25" oval adaptor, any ideas? OTOH, your black treatment of your stove parts may not be original but I like it and it can be removed later if someone wishes and I can afford it. How did you get that superb finish?

hahahahahahaha....just read this thread time for CoalNewbie to stand up and say "hello, my name is Coal Newbie and Im an addict" One day its it in some obscure place on ebay...next day its in coal newbies living room with 47 others!

Great catch bro! I love the size of that one, surly a great size for todays homes

"hello, my name is Coal Newbie and Im an addict"

There I said it and I feel so relieved and I am ready to go through the 12 steps.......
**Broken Link(s) Removed**Take a good look at this puppy ... it's near Lansing Mi WOW and again guys you are asleep. Oh no, back to rehab....

So let's review, I buy APL shares that go from $700 to $400 and that is just a shame. If I buy APL shares that go from $400 to $700 it's genius but there are very few of those and the govt wants it's capital gains tax but that is smart. I buy antique coal stoves judicially that I can sell at a profit today and that cost nothing to maintain and that is just pure craziness. Any of them can be brought into service quickly to help me save $20,000 a year on HO and that is in mostly after tax dollars, but that CN guy is just out there man.....

Hmmmmmm, I just wonder how stupid I will seem when HO goes to $!0. No, bad analogy, sheep stay sheep

I'm sure somebody's momma said " Crazy is as Crazy does" and opened a box of chocolates or somethin....

you just keep "pa rouse" ing for the cause...... Its a WE program and we love stoves!!!!

Ok so no biggie on the oval 1/2 size adaptor cause maybe a 6" or 5" pipe can be "shrunk" down with the tin shrinker pliers

I saw that 'parlor stove' on Ebay,, it's only about an hour drive away.. but it's just too wierd for me.. The flue exit is at about the 6 foot level.
I guess the stove manufacturers were experimenting with everything to extract the heat from the fire..

I emailed the seller to get some more photos, of grates, firebox, etc and got no response, reply or GFY. So I didn't follow up..

If it was a true baseheater or burner, I'd be interested.. but it's so strange looking I'd not have it in my house.. so why spend the cash??

Greg L

It was a typical German stove from the late 1800s.

http://www.antik-ofen-galerie.de/angebot/historis ... oefen.html

You´re quite right, Franco!
Typical Scandinavian & German design common between 1860-1910.
The extension on top of the cumbustion chamber is actually a heat extractor one could purchase as an add-on to a simple direct draft stove... The top of the barrel (over the heating compartment) is split in two lengthways, leaving a gap on the top so that the exhaust travels up in the front of the barrel - providing max. radiant heat the room - and down in the rear until it reaches the stovepipe.
The example in the foregound dates from the early 1900s and comes with a radiant lower half, while the upper part creates a convective flow between the cast iron core and the sheet metal coat. The one by the window in the background works on the same principle but is a 1870´s radiant-heat-only-model.
btw: rated 20-24K BTUs, would hold approx 10lbs of coal

firebug wrote:You´re quite right, Franco!
Typical Scandinavian & German design common between 1860-1910.
The extension on top of the cumbustion chamber is actually a heat extractor one could purchase as an add-on to a simple direct draft stove... The top of the barrel (over the heating compartment) is split in two lengthways, leaving a gap on the top so that the exhaust travels up in the front of the barrel - providing max. radiant heat the room - and down in the rear until it reaches the stovepipe.

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The example in the foregound dates from the early 1900s and comes with a radiant base, while the upper part creates a convective flow between the cast iron core and the sheet metal coat. The one by the window in the background works on the same principle but is a 1870´s radiant-heat-only-model.
btw: rated 20-24K BTUs, would hold approx 10lbs of coal

So there we have it... a Peak Burner VS. a Base Burner