I'm an Indy 500 fan

I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat May 18, 2013 12:38 pm

Been going there for years. Is anyone else on this forum going to be there this year?
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: jpete On: Sat May 18, 2013 12:46 pm

I'm watching the attempted qualifying on TV.

I was there for the first Brickyard 400.

Glad I was but it's a horrible place to see a race. I'll stick with the couch. :D
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat May 18, 2013 12:57 pm

The track was never designed or intended for NASCAR type racing, and its low banking and relatively tight and narrow turns are not suited to them at all. Dog and pony at best with the big stockers. Slow also.

But with Indy Cars it's different. About 50 mph faster. Able to run 3 wide (on occasion) in the turns. Lots of passing (by comparison).
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 18, 2013 3:29 pm

While on the topic Indy is coming back to Pocono.



http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-drivers-rave-about-return-to-pocono/

The tricky track built for Indy cars 44 years ago that eventually gave way to stock cars welcomed back an old friend Wednesday.

In a shakedown for July’s Pocono 400, Will Power, Dario Franchitti, Marco Andretti and Simon Pagenaud tested tires for Firestone and got their first look at the tri-oval that hasn’t hosted Indy cars since 1989.

They came away as impressed with the track as they were the speeds.

“It was fun and bloody hell it was fast,” declared Power after running a lap of 215 mph in his Verizon Dallara/Chevy. “You are wide open and f****** quick in those corners.

“But it’s a great layout, very smooth and safe, and I liked it.”
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat May 18, 2013 3:40 pm

I made it to Indy once in my life. I took a bus ride once around the track. It sure gave a lasting memory! Most people don't realize the corners are only banked 12 1/2 degrees....not much! (I think it's 12.5...is that right?) At 60 MPH in the bus we thought we just might tip over! I can not imagine pushing 200. Yeeeehaaaaa!
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat May 18, 2013 4:13 pm

Actually the turns are only banked at 9 degrees and 12 minutes. The turns are also only 60 feet wide. I believe the straights are 50 feet wide.

For comparison, Daytona is banked at 31 degrees, Charlotte at 24 degrees, and Bristol is 36 degrees.
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: jpete On: Sat May 18, 2013 4:55 pm

lsayre wrote:The track was never designed or intended for NASCAR type racing, and its low banking and relatively tight and narrow turns are not suited to them at all. Dog and pony at best with the big stockers. Slow also.

But with Indy Cars it's different. About 50 mph faster. Able to run 3 wide (on occasion) in the turns. Lots of passing (by comparison).


If you sit in a corner, you can see half the track. If you sit where I did, behind pit road, you can't see jack.

Any way you slice it, it's an "experience", but I'd never go back if I wanted to SEE a race.

I actually fell asleep for several laps. :)
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: jpete On: Sat May 18, 2013 4:58 pm

Freddy wrote:I made it to Indy once in my life. I took a bus ride once around the track. It sure gave a lasting memory! Most people don't realize the corners are only banked 12 1/2 degrees....not much! (I think it's 12.5...is that right?) At 60 MPH in the bus we thought we just might tip over! I can not imagine pushing 200. Yeeeehaaaaa!


I took the tour of Talladega in a 15 passenger van. You can't really see it on TV, but between the apron and the track, there is a lead that is banked at ~20 degrees.

I was sure we weren't going to make it. :)

I have pictures I took from inside where all you can see is a little fence and sky. :D
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat May 18, 2013 5:07 pm

jpete wrote:If you sit in a corner, you can see half the track. If you sit where I did, behind pit road, you can't see jack.

Any way you slice it, it's an "experience", but I'd never go back if I wanted to SEE a race.

I actually fell asleep for several laps. :)


We are in turn 3. We can see the cars exiting turn 2 and entering turn 4. About 1/2 of the track as you have said. If we were higher up we would see more. but the noise and speed are more apparent when you are closer to the track.
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 18, 2013 5:46 pm

lsayre wrote:For comparison, Daytona is banked at 31 degrees,


I was at Talladega for a tour, not a race. They took you around the track in a van, if you were at the top of that track and tripped it was a long way down. You just can't tell how steep it is on the TV.
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 18, 2013 5:49 pm

jpete wrote: You can't really see it on TV, but between the apron and the track, there is a lead that is banked at ~20 degrees.


Exactly! :) Even on the apron it seemed ridiculously banked.
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Re: I'm an Indy 500 fan

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat May 18, 2013 5:52 pm

Richard S. wrote:I was at Talladega for a tour, not a race. They took you around the track in a van, if you were at the top of that track and tripped it was a long way down. You just can't tell how steep it is on the TV.


I just looked it up, and Talladega is banked at 33 degrees. Compared to that, Indy's 9.2 degrees of banking is closer to what you experience on an Interstate turn.

I would like to go to the Pocono Indycar race, but that may have to wait for next year.
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