Kitchen drain clogging

Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Cap On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:43 am

My kitchen drain has a buildup. This same thing happened about 5-6 yrs ago. I replaced the entire 2" pvc across the basement ceiling back in 2006. And I replaced it again last week.

The only thing hooked up to this line is the dishwasher & the kitchen sink. No garbage disposal. I thought it could be undissolved dishwasher detergent. So, only used liquid since the last time I replaced this drain pipe.
But not. The substance is a light greasy substance and it will float in water. We are careful to screen particles in the drain. I think it's peanut butter from the knives and years of peanut butter jelly sandwiches! :lol:

I installed a giant 3" trap in the basement ceiling hooked together with rubber boot connectors so I can drop it next year in order to clean it out.

Any ideas?
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:04 am

Looks like some sort of fat or grease buildup...whatever it is, it must not be water soluble. Try hitting it with some HOT water and see if it melts or breaks down.

Does anyone pour grease down the drain?
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Cap On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:19 am

No grease. In fact, we don't eat fried food. Must have some correlation between the well water and dishwasher

Hey Rob. Congratulations on #2.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:11 pm

Every so often I fill the sink with hot water and then let it drain.

That kind of looks like the crap that came out of the lines outside here, they had a dip. Sure it's pitched right?
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:46 pm

Richard S. wrote:Every so often I fill the sink with hot water and then let it drain.

That kind of looks like the crap that came out of the lines outside here, they had a dip. Sure it's pitched right?


A quarter inch a foot pitch on the drain, and some liquid plumber every few months should help.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:53 pm

I use "Finish" brand tablets in the dishwasher, they rinse perfectly clean and leave no residue on anything.

Do you have a water softener?

X2 on checking the pipe pitch.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:19 pm

I had that same crap in my kitchen sink too. I went to clear it and the damn pipe broke in my hand; old galvanized pipe that went to a dry well. The dry well had collapsed. I just installed a new line to the septic. It was only a 5" move from where it dropped into the basement to the branch line. Although, it's now got a 45º pitch. You can hear it sucking. LOL
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:37 pm

Cap wrote:No grease. In fact, we don't eat fried food. Must have some correlation between the well water and dishwasher

Hey Rob. Congratulations on #2.


Silicates and Carbonate salts. Could possibly be Phosphate salts as well depending on your detergents formulation. Those compounds are there to tie up water hardness and allow the detergent to do a good job.

You might be using too much detergent. It's good to know your water hardness and adjust the detergent amount accordingly. Here's a good link that describes it quite well. Calcium and Magnesium silicates/phosphates are not as soluble as are Sodium silicates. If you use a softener, you can use less detergent.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Wiz On: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:56 pm

I boil a pot of water every so often for each drain,showers,sinks etc. Haven't had issues since doing it.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:21 pm

Cap, do you have hard water? Softener?
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Cap On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:58 pm

Rob R. wrote:Cap, do you have hard water? Softener?


Yes, I have hard water. No, I do not use a softener.
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:03 am

Cap wrote:
Rob R. wrote:Cap, do you have hard water? Softener?


Yes, I have hard water. No, I do not use a softener.

Do you know how many grains of hardness your well water has?
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Re: Kitchen drain clogging

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:01 am

Cap wrote:
Rob R. wrote:Cap, do you have hard water? Softener?


Yes, I have hard water. No, I do not use a softener.


It is time to put one in and enjoy nice water and extended appliance life. Get the water tested, then you will know what you are dealing with. Grains per gallon of hardness, iron, etc.
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