Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:43 pm

You can't buy anything for $80 that will come close to the comfort that little stove will provide. Well done.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: dcrane On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:39 pm

here is the last 44 I bought about 6 months ago (I traded the guy some fishing tackle I never used). I buy these up whenever I see them for under a $100 (I could throw this thing off the empire state building and it would still burn coal :lol: )
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: KingCoal918 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:52 am

I have a Model 88 I picked up on CL for $200 down on the South Shore. I was worried it would be too large for the 320sf workshop I've installed it in. shop walls are insulated and vapor barrier'd, but the loft is open rafters, so I expect a lot of heat loss out of the roof.

While it's been 40° out it does stay a bit warm at ~72°, but last week when it was down to 17° I came out in the morning to find the stove cooking away, and with the stove having been banked for the night, it was still a pleasant 57°.

If anyone is interested, I have a set started on Flickr. Doug Crane commented when I first pulled the stove into the shop back in December last year when I lugged it home.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/interrobang918/sets/72157637973252436
KingCoal918
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Coal Cooker Model 88
Coal Size/Type: stove and nut

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:36 am

KingCoal918 wrote:I have a Model 88 I picked up on CL for $200 down on the South Shore. I was worried it would be too large for the 320sf workshop I've installed it in. shop walls are insulated and vapor barrier'd, but the loft is open rafters, so I expect a lot of heat loss out of the roof.

While it's been 40° out it does stay a bit warm at ~72°, but last week when it was down to 17° I came out in the morning to find the stove cooking away, and with the stove having been banked for the night, it was still a pleasant 57°.

If anyone is interested, I have a set started on Flickr. Doug Crane commented when I first pulled the stove into the shop back in December last year when I lugged it home.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/interrobang918/sets/72157637973252436


look like your using stove coal (or stove & nut mix in some photos), the grate you have is a nut grate for sure (in good shape too)... the only thing i see is maybe firebrick at some point (though it only look worn at the grate level), maybe you can just "butter up" a lil bit that lower portion with some refractory just to make sure nut coal does not slip past the gap (the stainless ring is not their and maybe why its worn in this area moreso than normal... i never liked the stainless ring anyways). i think just a "butter up" would serve you well to burn nut coal as designed. ;)

Great flickr portfolio!
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: KingCoal918 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:31 pm

Good eye Doug.

Yes, I'm burning nut and stove. I have access to around 3-4 tons of stove coal in a basement in Milton, free and take it away. Just ordered 100 50lb capacity mesh bags from Uline today and am going to get the mask and shovel out and start to bag it up.

So far it's been working well. I could always break it up a bit if needed. I've noticed some unburned, or harder nut cinder has trapped itself between the grate and the liner on shakedown, and over time, I imagine this is going to further chew away the bottom of the pot.

Is it possible to use stove mud to skim coat it? I had thought of that but figured it was just going to break away. It might not be economically feasible for the small amount required of refractory cement. I'd be interested in trying the stainless ring if any are kicking around. Logically it seems to me that would be a handy addition, though practically maybe not so much.

Any plans of recasting liners? I bet there are a lot of 44s and 88s out there at liner end-of-life after 30 some odd years in service.
KingCoal918
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Coal Cooker Model 88
Coal Size/Type: stove and nut

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:45 pm

KingCoal918 wrote:Good eye Doug.

Yes, I'm burning nut and stove. I have access to around 3-4 tons of stove coal in a basement in Milton, free and take it away. Just ordered 100 50lb capacity mesh bags from Uline today and am going to get the mask and shovel out and start to bag it up.

So far it's been working well. I could always break it up a bit if needed. I've noticed some unburned, or harder nut cinder has trapped itself between the grate and the liner on shakedown, and over time, I imagine this is going to further chew away the bottom of the pot.

Is it possible to use stove mud to skim coat it? I had thought of that but figured it was just going to break away. It might not be economically feasible for the small amount required of refractory cement. I'd be interested in trying the stainless ring if any are kicking around. Logically it seems to me that would be a handy addition, though practically maybe not so much.

Any plans of recasting liners? I bet there are a lot of 44s and 88s out there at liner end-of-life after 30 some odd years in service.


You can patch it and it will fail after some years, i have cast new liners for a couple people (i dont mind doing it, but the refractory used is about $80 per bag)... highly scrape resistant. The stainless ring is simply a hoop made of approx 1"x 1/16" stainless strap (bend it around, weld the seam, done) the cast grate then sits inside this ring to prevent any rubbing on the brick itself (ive though about this and its a crappie design... I would prefer to have 3 centering tabs 1"x1/4" welded onto the "V" brackets (this would keep the grate centered as well as keep it from rubbing brick). In your case currently a ring would be nice because it would help block up that gap... (ill see if i can dig one up for you)

gratz on the free stove coal (i would gladly burn ANY anthracite coal that was free :dancing: ) Stove coal will burn OK in it... just not the temps or the times i could get with it loaded with nut.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane Coal Cooker Model 44 BTU or Square Feet Coverage

PostBy: JimD On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:13 pm

I enjoy reading this post....Skobydog, the 44 works great! Still ramping up the coal till full for the night. Thanks for selling it to me :)
Doug, thanks for the PM's and the help, you made a great stove for sure, your a wealth of knowledge and a great resource !

I will let you guys know how it goes tonight and how long the burn is, that is as long as I get it all going right and the right amount of air ..... From what I read once I give it the final fill for the night shake it down then dial in the air?

Jim D
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal