5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: blrman07 On: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:53 am

You probably some some negatives from the NE Pa. people about bagged Blaschak because of it being wet sometimes. Easy fix is to cut open some bags and store them in a plastic tote. Some bags might have water settle in them at the bottom of the bag so be sure and cut them and drain them in a place where black ooze won't be a problem. Sometimes it's wet, sometimes it's damp, sometimes it's just right. Just keep in mind when using bagged coal you might get some wet stuff now and again. just cut it and let it dry before dumping it in the hopper.

Rev. Larry
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:19 am

Great advice, I wanted to store the pallets in the basement, maybe I'll convert my entry way to the basement and take the stairs out, store them in there. If I can get bulk I plan on making that one big bin anyway. I'll need allot of advice. A definite learning experience for an old hvac tech.
Loading or repairing in a heated area is going to be a plus as compared to a cold OWB at twenty below with the wind whistling betwix the buttocks. toothy
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:21 am

Rob R. wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:
Rob R. wrote:Do you know Dean Rockhill? He has a coal yard in North Bangor and sells Keystokers.



But he doesn't sell Leisure Line. :D


I wasn't trying to steer anyone one way or the other, just mentioned it since he has been the resident Keystoker guy for a long time and many people know him as such.



I didn't take offense. I was just messing with ya. I think Keystoker makes a great product as well. But its a LL forum so I just figured I would see the reaction. LOL. Its all good. :cheers:
Most of the people who know me know that about the only things I take seriously is customer service and quality after that its all fair game.
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:53 am

nuthcuntrynut wrote: Theinsulated stainless chimneys can succomb to corrosion in the off season too i hear tell.


The SS liner like the power venter is option of last resort IMO. I don't know if it was bad batch or wrong material but one guy had one liner go in two seasons. I get the sense from other posters you might get ten years out of it.

On the other hand I use galvanized for flue pipe from the boiler to the thimble. That is going to last 20 or 30 years however it's going 24/7/365.
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:33 am

Is there an existing chimney serving the oil/gas boiler? If so, you might want to consider power venting that unit and putting the LL110 on the chimney.
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:12 am

Rob there is no chimney installed in the house in exception for the zero clearance fireplace ( Energy WastingPOS), the only backup the house has to say is the pellet stove, used to offset the outdoor wood boilers' appetite.
This coal Stoker boiler is for the most part my only heat source. I Plan on keeping the pellet stove for another season for emergency sake. Would like to remove the fireplace and replace with a wood stove or pellet insert in future.
Another idea is toeither squeeze some enough cash for a masonry chimney, though I'm getting old , to say,so I'll have to pay to put one up, maybe the Amish ? orrrrrrr
one idea was to build a small boiler room or shed for the stoker boiler? But the extra ambient heat would be nice in my cellar. what is minimum feet for chimney?
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:02 pm

nuthcuntrynut wrote:Rob there is no chimney installed in the house in exception for the zero clearance fireplace ( Energy WastingPOS), the only backup the house has to say is the pellet stove, used to offset the outdoor wood boilers' appetite.
This coal Stoker boiler is for the most part my only heat source. I Plan on keeping the pellet stove for another season for emergency sake. Would like to remove the fireplace and replace with a wood stove or pellet insert in future.
Another idea is toeither squeeze some enough cash for a masonry chimney, though I'm getting old , to say,so I'll have to pay to put one up, maybe the Amish ? orrrrrrr
one idea was to build a small boiler room or shed for the stoker boiler? But the extra ambient heat would be nice in my cellar. what is minimum feet for chimney?




I would say 18'-20' is a good minimum chimney height. Providing the roof clearances are met.
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:14 pm

wow thanks for all the help guys in my planning.
my house is a cape cod so chimney will be like 24', a shed it would be only 12max
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:23 pm

nuthcuntrynut wrote:wow thanks for all the help guys in my planning.
my house is a cape cod so chimney will be like 24', a shed it would be only 12max


24' chimney should perform nicely. Definitely put the boiler in the basement if you can, the ambient heat will be very nice, the install will be much simpler, and you won't have to run circulators 24/7. I installed a coal boiler in my basement, and it gave the old house a new lease on life.
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: hcarlow On: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:34 pm

I have the 110 in my basement and really like it . Be sure and get the optional cleanout on top of the boiler as it makes cleaning so easy . As others have mentioned the 5gpm might be a good option , especially if you have hard water .
I use blashcak rice with very good results , I dump the bags in a wheel barrow and keep it full as the coal dries by the time i need it again . I tried opening the tops of the bags but really didn't work well for me .
Good Luck
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:16 pm

hcarlow
what are you venting into if you don't mind me asking
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: hcarlow On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:14 am

I have a 24 + ft. clay lined chimney , draft is good except for warm weather like we are having here now . I do have a cap on the chimney so I am sure that doesn't help the draft situation in this type of weather. I have a cape cod style home with chimney in the center of the house .
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:04 am

the dealership was kind enough to followup on my request for a bid, Cute Lil redhead gal. She claims they are having far less problems with the power venter than chimneys, most folks must be running their boilers through summer is all i can figure. One item was overlooked wonder if manufacturer can help me with the combustion chamber door, can i get that hinged?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: wl110 leisure line
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: ussc pellet stove
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110

Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: hcarlow On: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 am

If people are running all summer I can understand some people like myself would need a power venter for summer operation . Like I mentioned in another post I do have a cap on the chimney so that is part of my problem I would guess .These coal boilers and stoves are so efficient they don't have enough heat going up the chimney to keep a good draft ,at least that's my case . When my boiler is at idle you can put your hand on the flu pipe with no problem and can almost do it at anytime . My detector never went off but we would have a slight sulfur smell , not enough draft in the firebox area , so I shut down for the summer .With my coal prices it is just as cheap or cheaper for me to make the dhw with my old oil boiler anyways .

I think a hinged door would be a great idea just not sure how it would work if you wanted to burn oil at some point , codes etc. .
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Re: 5gpm dhw vs. 3gpm

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:29 am

hcarlow wrote:Like I mentioned in another post I do have a cap on the chimney so that is part of my problem I would guess .

My chimney is capped too, I personally don't think that a cap would inhibit draft whatsoever.

hcarlow wrote:These coal boilers and stoves are so efficient they don't have enough heat going up the chimney to keep a good draft ,at least that's my case . When my boiler is at idle you can put your hand on the flu pipe with no problem and can almost do it at anytime .

This is more likely the reason for poor drafting during warm temps outside. Try keeping a window open to the boiler room so air pressure can stay balanced with the outside.
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