franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:54 pm

shoman70 wrote:i am trying to figure out what temps i should expect from the 1st floor where the stove will be versus temps on the 2nd floor


its gonna be warm nearest the stove. Depending on location of your living room is going to determine what will happen. For what its worth, my stove is at the end of the house in the basement. My basement in dead of winter runs around 80± while my upstairs runs around 72± keeping bedroom doors open its fairly even. Close the upstairs doors and the farthest room from stove will drop about 7 or 8 degrees. Once I duct it I should see more stable temps with less temperature differential from basement to main floor. But thats my set up, each house is unique. ;)
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:07 pm

how big of a house do you have to heat? i have stove on 1st floor and bedrooms on 2nd floor a 2,000 square foot colonial home. my goal is getting the 2nd floor to about 68 degrees. someone told me that a harman mark 3 will be like an oven on 1st floor lol.
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:13 pm

Welcome to the forum Rob.
As you can see many ideas from many members. Every situations are different from one house to an other one, so many things to consider: insulation: you can have good insulation and super insulation, if having good to super insulation you probably have an air exchanger to bring outside fresh air in and get the humidity and polluated air outside, the windows performance and orientation, house location, and one very important thing is like many said: warm air ciculation. Some house desings help for an efficient circulation while others make the air movement like a wall: cold on one side and warm on the other side, just like when sitting around a camp fire...
You will have to make some experiences to find the best for your personnal needs.
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:15 pm

Hitzer or DS Machine with a hopper...
Or a nice Old Stove...
Do not like the fan noise on the Harman or any other fanned stove...
Harman have a funny burn pattern and are loaded from the front...
Hoppers can be loaded from the top...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:25 pm

yes but if you lose power there goes your hopper stove. :(
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:59 pm

shoman70 wrote:yes but if you lose power there goes your hopper stove. :(

You are thinking of a stoker, a hand fired stove with a hopper does not use electricity.
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:58 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:Hitzer or DS Machine with a hopper...
Or a nice Old Stove...
Do not like the fan noise on the Harman or any other fanned stove...
Harman have a funny burn pattern and are loaded from the front...
Hoppers can be loaded from the top...



Dont both Hitzer and DS utilize a fan... just cause its their does not mean you have to use it, or put it on a rheostat.

I heat roughly 2500± sqft (this is my living floor and basement total) with my harman. I have not had to kick on furnace yet for backup but I do tend to open 'er up sometimes if need be. I bought this stove from a friend for pennies because i was unsure(like yourself) how coal would perform. Have been happy ever since.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:00 pm

shoman70 im surprised a fellow member hasnt chimed in yet... fill in your profile to show your location, "nobody's gonna steal ya ;) "
it will help other members determine your climate for better suggestions for you
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Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:22 pm

I live in Bethlehem pa. Best coal around. Ok Anthony so you heat entire house with your stove? Good news
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:08 am

shoman70 wrote:i am trying to figure out what temps i should expect from the 1st floor where the stove will be versus temps on the 2nd floor


I am heating a split level with a Mark II. It could do a better job if my airflow was better. I have BTUs I can't use. The stove is in the family room at the rear of the house. I typically lose 10* from that room to my upstairs bedroom. The heat goes through the kitchen, living room and up the stairs to the second floor. I try to keep my family room at 75* so we don't roast. That puts the upper level of the house at 65* or a little less. I reverse the direction of my ceiling fans so that they draw the heat up. I don't even try to heat the lower 1/2 basement with the Mark II. The airflow just won't go there.

If your floor plan has your second level on top of the main floor you will get some residual heat through the ceiling, not much but some, and the stairwell will facilitate the airflow more efficiently. As was said you won't be able to know how much heat makes up to the second floor until you try it. I suspect you'll find you lose 10 or 15* depending on conditions. Good luck, Lisa
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:24 am

so you could get the temp on the main floor over 75 degrees??
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:46 pm

DS and Hitzer have stoves designed to work without any fan...
Stoves designed with a fan need that fan to hit designed output...
I like quiet heat...
I had a harman mark II...
till i swapped it out for the ds...
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:42 pm

shoman70 wrote:so you could get the temp on the main floor over 75 degrees??


More than likely yes you could get the main floor over 75... its gonna very toasty near the stove. Picture it as a overgrown space heater warm where its at, cooler further away. Try not to think too much into it.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
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Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:45 am

You can make the house as hot as you want...
Just need the stove to be sized properly...
My ds kept the house at 75* no problem...
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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: franco-belge or harman mark3 coal stove

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:31 pm

shoman70 wrote:so you could get the temp on the main floor over 75 degrees??


Oh yeah, way over. ;) Lisa
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