Latest Project

Latest Project

PostBy: steamup On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:08 pm

I managed to buy this beauty at tax auction this spring for $1300.00. It is the house next door to me. It is totally trashed and is starting to collapse in the back.

It was bought 15 years ago on land contract and they never put money into it where it counted - such as a new roof.

People were living in it until fall of last year. Best described as the "Neighbors from Hell". I cannot describe how discusting it is inside with animal fecal matter covering all the floors. It was filled with garbage as is the shed behind it.

I am on my second 8 CU. YD dumpster for the trash and still have more to go.

I figure it will cost me about another $4500 to have it torn down and cleaned up. I am working with the local fire department to see if they want a "practice house" ending with a controlled burn. This might save a little money in disposal cost.

I really can't understand why people live that way, but it is worth every penny not to have them next to me anymore.

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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:24 pm

Mahhhh... rehabbers out here would come in with a lil' Caulking and paint and and shop vac and make $50k :lol:

I cant believe how cheap you got that place for... GG and gratz
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:13 pm

Nice catch, for $1300 !
The Fire Dept can't torch it if it has any asbestos in it.
Better to keep filling dumpsters :shh:
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:10 pm

steamup wrote:I am on my second 8 CU. YD dumpster for the trash and still have more to go.

I figure it will cost me about another $4500 to have it torn down and cleaned up. I am working with the local fire department to see if they want a "practice house" ending with a controlled burn. This might save a little money in disposal cost.


Find a buddy with a Dozer or some type of backhoe, knocker all down and then drop a match yourself. I guess if you live in town this wont work. Ive seen many a cabins and small houses disappear that way ;)
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:17 pm

easy, cut 4x4' hole in both upstairs and downstairs floor one above the other, take all sheetrock down, knock all insualation down to basement next, then put sheetrock ontop of that. stripout wiring, plumbing, anything thatcould be called hazardous, remove from house, Knock house down, if out of town call local 911 for controlled burn farm brush piles., and arrange for local FD to have truck there for containment justin case.(donation some sort)plus training for newer members.

Light it off, and it will burn hot for about 2 hours, then it will burn for another 18-24 hours(embers mainly) till completely out. There will be nothing left of sheetrock or insulation. or what little there is will be next to nothing. Took down a house 3 years ago on farm, thats how i did it. I had a pond right next to tthe hose, and local FD called it in as farm controled burn at farm for brush pile and pumper training.
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: steamup On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:55 am

I have a neighbor up the road with a excavating/landscape business. He rates are down right reasonable and I have him on standby for when we are ready.

The control burn has been carefully investigated. The States DEC has very strict regulations for open burning. All vinyl's and asphalt products as well as any hazardous materials must be removed. Fortunately there are no hazardous materials or vinyl. Siding is aluminum and will be scrapped for cash to pay for the dumpster. Roofing as well as some of the asphalt siding under the aluminum siding will have to be removed. As long as the building stands and the fire department uses NFPA guidelines for training, it can be burned. Knock the building down and it becomes demolition debris and cannot be open burned. Funny how some regulations are.

Power company showed up yesterday to remove the electric service.

This is going to be a good lot to store my coal on.
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:04 am

When we knocked down our barn, we were told about all the permits and other BS we needed to do.

However the township had been out and had told us we needed to do something about its deteriorating condition. I told them that Mother Nature would take care of that.

And she did right after I put the backhoe to it......... :D

In my conversation with the township code inspector, I told him that I was going to burn the debris. I too was told that I could not do it at once.
But he did tell me that there was no restriction on us having a bonfire every weekend......... which we did.

Luckily I have a set of forks for the front bucket.I burned one load at a time.......
Took all summer but it worked. In fact 1 time someone even dumped some old auto paint on the flames........ :oops:




Rick
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: steamup On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:11 am

Yep, NYS - DEC is getting prickly about everything. Open camp fires are still permitted providing they are 3 foot or less in diameter. Burn barrels have been totally banned. In towns of 20,000 or less, tree branches may still be burned, providing the fire doesn't last longer than 24 hours.

I follow the regulations... ;)

However, they still allow the demolition debris to be buried on site if I wish. I prefer not to bury a whole lot of it.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson AA-130, Keystoker K-6
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:17 am

Shame, it looks like it iss in better shape then some of the project I have started with.
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: steamup On: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:22 pm

NWBuilder wrote:Shame, it looks like it iss in better shape then some of the project I have started with.



The picture makes it look better than it is. The entire house is racked and out of square by several inches. The rear room floor has caved into the crawl space. the side wall at the rear porch has settled 2 inches from water rot. The side porch roof has rotted away. Door casings inside droop 2" in 3 feet. Not only are the floors not level, their not flat due to settling from rot. This is a post and beam structure and the sill beams are rotted. Kitchen ceiling is caving in from water damage.

Oh, did I mention that the septic hasn't been pumped in over 15 years. I doubt it even works, so the septic tank will just get broken up and filled in.

The heating and plumbing have been ripped out by the previous occupant for scrap.

Attempting to put any money into this structure would just be a waste.
steamup
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson AA-130, Keystoker K-6
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:11 am

Yup, some just aren't salvageable, sounds like you have one of those. Good luck moving forward!
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: Phil May On: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:06 pm

Start replumbing the place. funny how old wood catches when soldering.
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:10 pm

So you got the walking paint every time you have a fire Rick? I got the walking tires. Amazing how they just end up in the bonfire ....every weekend ... toothy

Hey Steamup, if that house was in suburban Worcester, MA you could've just put a for sale sign out front an made your money back 100x! :lol: And the people would gut it and repair it too! MA is it's own little world ...
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:21 am

Son-of-a-gun! I've heard of "buying a place for taxes" but you pulled it off! Congratulations! What a wonderful thing, I feel so good for you! Make sure that you ask for an abatement & get the building off the tax map after it's gone.


steamup wrote:Burn barrels have been totally banned


Ahhh..... like since 1968! :)
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Re: Latest Project

PostBy: steamup On: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:52 am

It sounds like a deal but really isn't. When I get done, I will have invested about 8,000 dollars with all costs and legal fees to clean up this lot. The lot is assessed at $2,400 because it is too small to rebuild on to maintain well and septic distance. My whole motive is to maintain my current property resale values. Bad neighbors and trashy lots can devalue a propery by thousands of dollars on the resell but not on the assessement.

The "priceless" value is the ability to tear down a house where the people have really pissed you off.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson AA-130, Keystoker K-6
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: HS Tarm 502 Wood/Coal/Oil
Coal Size/Type: pea, buck, rice