Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:26 pm

nortcan wrote:JohnB, is it possible for you to give us some infos or links about these insulated St-St liners?
Thanks


What I have seen was an after-market option to add on the insulation just before placing liner into chimney. Also, the insulation gets wrapped with a stainlees steel mesh to hold insulation in place and also to protect insulation as the assembly travels into chimney. So,no...there is not a pre-made assembly...it is built on site, if there is enough space for it to fit and the owner is willing to pay for it. :)
McGiever
 
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:43 pm

JohnB wrote:There is no way you can compare the durability of a good quality 316 stainless liner to cheap black stove pipe.


You are absolutely correct. Although my point wasn't to compare. I was simply trying to demonstrate the acidic effect of damp coal ash on metal. Maybe your SS liner will last forever, hard sayin.. But Im sayin many here haven't had the best of luck with a SS chimney liner so be careful and good luck.. :D
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:51 am

So,no...there is not a pre-made assembly...it is built on site, if there is enough space for it to fit and the owner is willing to pay for it. :)


Correct although around here the insulation wrap is required by code in an unlined chimney so "willing to pay for it" doesn't enter into it if you expect your insurance company to pay up if there is a chimney related fire.

This is a typical wrap kit for the do-it-yourselfer: http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/store/ ... kness.html
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:25 pm

Thanx for the link JB
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:52 pm

Time to update the thread: Installed the new liner last month & set up the Hitzer soon after. I've had 3-4 wood fires just to knock off the chill but yesterday was my first coal fire. Loaded (no hopper yet) the stove up last night & still had a nice 300*F + fire this morning. Turned it way down during the day & then topped it up a couple hours ago. Definitely like having the blower to spread the heat around. I ran it set to 9+ last night but I'll try a lower setting tonight. I'll post a photo of the Hitzer in it's new home tomorrow.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:27 pm

I should seriously HOPE SO!!!!!!!! :clap: toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:24 pm

Too bad you couldn't find an old-school mason to lower in sections of clay liner from the top. Insulated stainless is the next best thing I guess. How about some pictures of this new install? Sounds like it is running great.
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:36 pm

I'll take a few pics tomorrow. This is a center chimney in a 250 year old house. There are 5 fireplace chambers tying in at different heights with areas big enough to move around in the main trunk. Clay flues are not an option. Checked out the pour in liner material but the cost was WAY out of my ballpark.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: Bootstrap On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:44 am

SS liners are fine. The trick is, (1)always keep the coal fire going.(2) Keep the coal out of the rain in a dry area, you dont want the moisture. (3) Once you stop you need to climb on the roof, and dump baking soda down the pipe. I usually dump about two boxes down, thats supposed to neutralize the corrosive properties. It wont corrode while your actively burning a coal fire. Its after the fire is out. I have 25 feet of triple wall insulated stainless steel chimney pipe as my venting. I've been burning coal for 3 years, this is the beginning of the fourth. No indication of the pipe corroding away and I inspect it.

If your going to have only a fire at night, and not during the day, use wood dont use coal. And get a chimney cap, you dont want rain water down there.
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:07 am

Thanks for the baking soda tip. Works to neutralize battery acid so it should help prolong the liner life. I'll work some in when I clean the liner in the spring.

Here's a couple photos of the Hitzer's new home:
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Just got the new subfloor down in front of the Hitzer a few days ago. Parts of the first floor still look like this:
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I let the fire die down this morning & slipped the hopper ring into place so I can start loading from the top.
JohnB
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: Bootstrap On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:15 pm

What town are you from? Not too far from my neck of the woods....
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:20 pm

I'm east of Danielson about 2 miles from the R.I. border.
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:16 pm

She looks like you're set JB :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: JohnB On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:44 pm

I noticed today that with the hopper ring installed & filled the fire burns much hotter on the left (facing) side whereas without the ring the fire burned evenly all the way across. The hole around the shaker shaft is sealed so air isn't getting in there. Seems odd as the air comes in on the right side through the rear air inlet.

I'm also wondering when the damn paint odor is finally going to go away. After half a dozen fires & continuous burning for several days you would think that it would fade away. At least it's not setting off my smoke alarm any more.

Anyone ever box in the open side of the ash pan? I'm thinking about it as dumping the ashes into my can is a PITA with that big open side. Also if it's filled it dumps ashes into the back of the pan area when you lift it to pull it out.
JohnB
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Anyone burning wood in a Hitzer Ez-Flow 50-93?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:39 pm

Try what you think is going to work for YOU JB--the advantage I find with the open ash pan--I can push it all the way in empty--tilt a little & catch any loose ash in the back--more or less--nothing here is carved in stone--ya sure that hole for the grate is REALLY airtight--ya might want to rethink it---or not. Now all the real personal tinkerin happens:)
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