Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:00 pm

Wood burns fast because it needs to. Otherwise you get a chimney full of creosote.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:15 pm

coalcracker wrote:interesting you say that, did you block the upper glass air slits then ? I tried that once with strips of aluminum tape on my Harman I. It really didn't improve coal burning, and didn't burn off the methane top gases like it used to before, so I removed the tape and returned it to stock configuration. I called Harman and talked to them about that, they said the stove should have air flow over the top of the fire.

Now here is proof that you haven't a clue as to what your talking about!

The SF -250 DOES NOT HAVE AIR OPENINGS ABOVE AND BELOW THE GLASS like the MARK SERIES DOES. It has 2 over-fire knobs on the load door.

C'mon dude ... give it up! Seriously. It's getting tiresome! :roll:

http://www.harmanstoves.com/Products/Ma ... Stove.aspx
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:26 pm

dcrane wrote:someone wish to explain what this knuckle head is trying to prove, suggest, show with this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfapWDsvPM


Oh, come on - it's so obvious !

That stoves so efficient, . . you only need one sheet of news paper to heat your house. :D

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
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Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:48 pm

I have a Harman I that burns wood superbly, but it would tend to be a bit hungry using the coal grates. It is listed for both fuels though by the mfr.


You must have a different manual for your stove then I do, I don't see anything in mine indicating the Mark I is recommended by the manufacturer as a wood burning appliance, although firewood can be successfully burned in the stove.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:18 am

The Harman Mark series does not list wood as a fuel because of the epa reg's and woodstove emissions that went into effect many years ago.

I burned wood in my Mark III for a lot of years, it throws out the heat but burns through it pretty fast. Junk mail burned pretty well in it too.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: JohnB On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:51 am

That's one thing I miss about not having a woodstove in the house right now. I've avoided throwing the junk mail & small cardboard containers on the coal fire as I figured the ash on top would screw up the air feed through the coal. I still plan to set up the Jotul F500 in the livingroom next year if I can squeeze a second liner in the upper chimney section.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:06 am

I thought so too, early on with my stove.

Not sure about the box stoves, but all my junk mail and personal papers, that are no longer needed, go into the kitchen range. Right on top of the hot coals. I just don't dump them all in at once. Crumpled up in a ball, one piece at either end of the firebox at a time. When it's burnt to ash, in goes another.

It's clean burning heat ! ;)

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:09 am

titleist1 wrote:The Harman Mark series does not list wood as a fuel because of the epa reg's and woodstove emissions that went into effect many years ago.


I knew that!
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: coalcracker On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:19 am

Sunny Boy wrote:I thought so too, early on with my stove.

Not sure about the box stoves, but all my junk mail and personal papers, that are no longer needed, go into the kitchen range. Right on top of the hot coals. I just don't dump them all in at once. Crumpled up in a ball, one piece at either end of the firebox at a time. When it's burnt to ash, in goes another.

It's clean burning heat ! ;)

Paul



I burn all my junk mail in the Harman Mk I on top of the coals- if you really want a treat, during early or late heating season when a coal fire is too much heat during the day, try burning a stack of old phone books. I filled the Harman with phone books one night, lit it, and dampened it off. When I woke up in the morning, they were still there but in ash. Touched the block of ashes once with a poker, and it collapsed to powder. Those Harmans will incinerate anything. The phone books heated the house for one night.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Standard sealed hot water boiler, hand fed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark I Magnafire
Baseburners & Antiques: Lehigh Oak 18, Washington potbelly, Sears Roebuck parlor cabinet, PIttston 6 lid cook stove, vintage combo gas/coal cook stove 4 lid
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark I Magnafire

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:43 am

I've been burning phone books, newspapers, magazines, and other things as well in my stove for 20+ years. I roll them up, tie them with wire, and throw them in the stove. Free heat is OK with me. Just makes a lot of ash but, that's OK too.
SuperBeetle
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Nut, & Stove Anthracite

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: JohnB On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:55 am

I'm definitely a fan of free heat. Still burning the junk paper & cardboard in my shop woodstove as well as all the old split lathe & damaged boards that come out of my old house as the renovation progresses. If I can't reuse it I burn it for heat.
JohnB
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Who makes a quality stove that burns both wood and coal?

PostBy: cheechblu On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:27 pm

I have a Marathon Yankee tri-fuel forced air furnace(wood/coal/oil). It's almost 10 years old, and it burns wood very well. Has to be seasoned wood. Load it up and it burns all nite. And it burns a lot of wood. So yeah, it burns wood very good. But I learned 3+ weeks ago that coal burns tremendously in this furnace. Shake and load every 12 hours. I would highly recommend this furnace for someone looking to burn wood or coal. Not efficient with oil though. But so what.
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Marathon Yankee Coal & Wood
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul Fireside Woodstove
Stove/Furnace Make: Marathon
Stove/Furnace Model: Yankee

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